Talk:Checkpoint Charlie

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Contents 1 Dates 2 Checkpoint Charlie Monument Destroyed? 3 Cleanup 4 images 5 Risk of Escalation 6 Newman Smith High School

[edit] Dates

Be careful about dates. I think the dates I've given are accurate, but different sources give all sorts of different answers about precise timings. So if you find a source which disagrees with the article, don't automatically "correct" the article; on the other hand, if you are sure of the facts, please do! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.67.43.240 (talk • contribs) 01:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Checkpoint Charlie Monument Destroyed?

It appears the monument has been dismantled very recently. If no one takes up the editing of the article, perhaps I will.

See the following link [1]

--Joanneva 8 July 2005 11:20 (UTC)

See also de:Freiheitsmahnmal—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.67.43.240 (talk • contribs) 21:15, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Checkpoint Charlie is not DESTROYED!!! It is STILL there.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.37.191.167 (talk • contribs) 07:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Joanneva is referring to the crosses incident, in which a memorial consisting of crosses for each person killed on the wall was removed by the city under dubious circumstances. I will add this later if no-one else does.  ProhibitOnions  ^(T) 11:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I did some cleaning up the best I could, i mostly just reorganized and rewrote what was already there. I did not add any new information. Someone with knowledge of the subject needs to work on the 'Diplomatic Row' section (and probably reorganize it). I honestly did not understand the information as it was presented.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 161.253.39.188 (talk • contribs) 06:39, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] images

historical image would be good, not just recent tourist photos. thanks.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.229.160.150 (talk • contribs) 20:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Risk of Escalation

The statement in the Diplomatic Row section that "both superpowers' leaders understood that Berlin was not worth general war" is not supported and there is much evidence to the contrary. During this time, the Eastern Bloc was furious with the status quo arrangement concerning Berlin as they were losing hundreds or thousands of citizens daily between East and West Berlin. Khruschev had risked open war just three years prior to this event to try to swallow up West Berlin into the GDR by signing a treaty of formal recognition with the latter. The position of Ike and deGualle was to counter any use of force in Berlin (which would have been unavoidable in any attempt to absorb West Berlin given the sizable Nato presence there). Berlin was a showcase for both sides in the Cold War as to their respective superiority and it is possibly the only theatre in the entire world that both East and West were prepared to risk direct confrontation to defend. This statement should be modified or deleted in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Degivct (talk • contribs) 19:38, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I disagree but of course this is not NPOV so should not have been in the article. Thanks for removing it. (Mountain Goat (talk) 21:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC))

new at wikipedia. sorry. is that picture of that guy in the links section a verifiable fact? i was in berlin this past summer, and saw what the House on Checkpoint Charlie said was the ORIGINAL sign. This guy also claims to have the original sign? Explanation?

[edit] Newman Smith High School

Removed the comment

Today, Checkpoint Charlie can also be found guarding the entrance to Newman Smith High 
School in Carrollton, Texas. In order to receive the official "thumbs up" signal from 
him, you must present a green ID. Otherwise, you'll have better luck trying to jump the 
fence.

as the article on that school makes no reference to Checkpoint Charlie in any way.
Septegram 22:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Hahahaha. He's the school's parking lot security guard. It's just his nickname. You're right, though: no reason to keep it. Oscabat 07:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)