Talk:Charles Hamilton Houston
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According to Special:Announcements this was EN.wikipedia's 250,000th article. jengod 19:21, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Shelley v. Kraemer
According to the findlaw opinion cited in the article on this case, Houston was not identified as counsel for any party to the case, although Marshall was listed as counsel for petitioners in the companion case. Ellsworth 23:34, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Taking out the lead sentence "Houston is the black lawyer who killed jim crow" because it seems overblown and not entirely proveable. A number of people had a hand in ending that system of institutional oppression - the freedom riders, MLK, Thurgood Marshall, etc. More appropriate to say that he was a leading civil rights advocate, who was instrumental in overturning jim crow.Jahenderson 16:32, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Houston was known as "The Man Who Killed Jim Crow". I think the writer was trying to incorporate that nickname but did it clunkily. I'm adding the nickname with citation nut-meg 03:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Huh
[edit] Brown
I'm unclear about how Houston argued Brown vs Board of Education before the Supreme Court. Wasn't Brown vs Board of Education filed in 1951, after Houston died? Unless there was another less famous Brown vs Board of Education.--128.237.238.166 04:17, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] User Kemet - ethnic disruption
On 14:54, 1 September 2007, this user substituted black for American in Charles Hamilton Houston's biography in a seemingly ethnic disruptive motivated manner. The edit is here reverted and post-edited to African American. Noula69 00:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- This is a non-issue and certainly not disruptive. It is customary to note peoples' nationalities in wikipedia (or other encyclopedia) articles; "American" is a nationality, "black" isn't. It is also acceptable to emphasize nationality over sub-national ethnicity in these articles, so the post-edit to "African American" instead of "American" requires further explanation. Kemet 16:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kemet (talk • contribs)
- You cannot decide just on your, without any consensus on this matter, to change all African American on Wikipedia to Americans. It is an established fact that Houston was Black just as his mother Mary had been. Prior editorial consensus on this particular biography had established him to be a Black lawyer, not an American lawyer. The burden of evidence for editing Black into American rests entirely on the shoulders of the person who wishes to create a new consensus on the issue. Unless you can establish that Houston's blackness is counterfactual or that a new consensus has been reached on how to handle the issue on this particular bibliography, matters must stand as they are. You cannot create consensus out of what you think is customary or acceptable in emphasizing either nationality or ethnicity, especially when your point of view is disputed as it the case here. In this particular context, the post-edit from Black to African American seems to me a fair compromise empasizing both ethnicity and nationality. I therefore restore African American unless you indicate to me you prefer reverting to Black. Noula69 21:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
