Talk:Charles Carroll of Carrollton

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Yello. This sentence is kind of confusing. Can you help me out? "Charles married Mary Darnall, known as Molly, on June 5, 1768. They had seven children before Mary died in 1782, but only three survived infancy: Mary, Charles, and Kitty. Mary was married to Richard Caton, and Charles lived with them and their four children after his wife died." Charles senior or junior? Perhaps we could also specify that the Mary being referred to is the daughter. Taco325i 04:11, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Emigration date

The text says:

Around the year 1659, during the reign of King James II, he emigrated from England to America, thus establishing one of the most influential families in American politics.

James II reigned from 1685 to 1688. So, is the date wrong, or is the reign wrong? Coemgenus 19:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Irish Clan Chiefs

The "O'" in Irish surnames was often dropped due to the Anglicisation policy of the occupying English, particularly during the period of the "Penal Laws". This is simplistic at best and at worst just plain wrong. The Ó (and actually Ua, Mac and Mag) are all unstressed in Irish and are often not heard in the language at all (depending on dialect the may be no Ó where there should be). This can be best illustrated by the two brothers Seosamh Mac Grianna and Séamus Ó Grianna (see the Wikipedia entries for them), where the brothers were unsure what prefix 'Ó' or 'Mac' should go before their name which was really pronounced as Grianna or perhaps as 'A Grianna' with a slight 'a' sound in careful speech. This explains why so many names lost the O and the Mac as much as Penal laws. It is also worth pointing out that Manx names have nearly all lost the Mac sound as well (Manx Gaelic's treatment of Mac was similar to northern Irish's with the sound reduced to either 'c' or 'ac'). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.6.253 (talk) 02:55, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Birth date

The entry has him born in two different years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.17.106.154 (talk) 20:23, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

You're right, I fixed it. The Catholic Encyclopedia gives his birth year as 1737. Coemgenus 22:04, 19 November 2007 (UTC)