Talk:Chandrika Prasad Srivastava

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[edit] "Sir"

CP is not entitled to use the title Sir because he is not a citizen of one of the 16 Commonwealth realm countries (not the same as Commonwealth countries) , see Wikipedia entry on Sir for moreInfo. He is an honorary knight (see List of honorary British Knights). Commonwealth realm countries recognise the British monarch as their head of stata - not the case with India. --Simon D M 09:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

That is correct. Only the members of knightly orders who are actual subjects of the Queen carry the title of "sir". Likewise, former President George H.W. Bush GCB has been knighted, but may not use the title, likewise General Norman Schwarzkopf KCB and Bob Geldof KBE (he's Irish). See "Sir#Formal styling". As Simon D M has pointed out, India is not a "Commonwealth realm". Nonetheless, it's worth noting that the subject is commonly known as "Sir CP". ·:· Will Beback ·:· 09:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, he's commonly known as 'Sir CP' and also 'Papaji' within Sahaja Yoga. This article does not chronicle his involvement in Sahaja Yoga (which was minimal before his retirement). --Simon D M 09:50, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

From Order_of_St_Michael_and_St_George "...a practice that still occurs is when The Queen visits the nation, the British Ambassador to that nation automatically becomes a Knight Commander of the Order, and then after may use the prefix 'Sir'". Sfacets 12:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

You should read the Order_of_St_Michael_and_St_George article you cite in full, it includes this: "Knights Grand Cross and Knights Commanders prefix "Sir", and Dames Grand Cross and Dames Commanders prefix "Dame", to their forenames. Wives of Knights may prefix "Lady" to their surnames, but no equivalent privilege exists for husbands of Dames. Such forms are not used by peers and princes, except when the names of the former are written out in their fullest forms. Furthermore, honorary members and clergymen do not use the accolade of knighthood." If you don't know what an honorary knight is, see List of honorary British Knights. It states, "Honorary awards are made to people who are not citizens of countries that acknowledge the British Sovereign as their head of state. They cannot use the titles of "Sir" or "Dame", but can use the initials of the awards after their names. If such people later acquire British nationality or the nationality of another Commonwealth Realm, then their awards are usually made substantive, and in the case of knighthoods and dameships they can begin to use the titles." Case closed. --Simon D M 13:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

You're absolutely right - I have removed the prefix - feel free to remove it wherever else it occurs. Sfacets 14:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)