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[edit] Upsurge in crime

The following statement 'Chandler's Ford has seen a recent upsurge in crime, and the Police have had to divert resources from the Capital in an effort to deal with this' is currently being supported by this reference: [1]. This article on the BBC is talking about just one event, and has no mention anywhere of any general upsurge in the crime levels. The statement in the article as it stands suggest that there has been this upward trend in recent times, and there is nothing in the BBC article to support that claim, or that the Met are diverting resources (in fact, it even goes so far as to describe Chandlers Ford as 'sleepy'). The Flying Squad had one operation in the town, and that's it. Hence in my opinion the statement should either be removed, or a suitable source of reference should be cited. Martocticvs (talk) 22:41, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Here are the crime statistics for the Eastleigh West area, which covers the Chandlers Ford and Hiltingbury policing areas. At present, the stats show a year-on-year reduction in every type of crime, so yes, the statement is utterly false. Waggers (talk) 08:57, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Check facts - CF burglaries up 29%; Armed robberies up 100% - crime is on the up in CF. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.195.202.55 (talk) 10:15, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

The fact remains that that BBC link in no way supports that claim, as it refers to one isolated incident. If you're going to make a claim like that in an encyclopædia, you're going to need to provide a reference that clearly supports it. Martocticvs (talk) 12:07, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The statement does have some value though, because there was little major crime until the bank raid. Crime probably has risen in that respect, but calling it an 'recent upsurge of crime' seems ridiculous. It sounds like I should be boarding up my windows, calling my family, avoiding dark alleys and not going out at night.131.231.223.41 (talk) 12:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I have altered the wording of the first sentence of the second paragraph to better reflect the data shown in the supplied ref. Burglaries are the only are that show an increase, and there were only 32 of them! To call that an 'upsurge' in crime is just a little bit over-dramatic. Martocticvs 19:10, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

You say only 32, but as stated later in the article there are only 2,674 households in Chandler's Ford. This means that more than 1 in every 100 houses were burgled last year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.195.202.55 (talk) 20:55, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "aka The Ford"

There's absolutely no evidence for this alternative name, and, being a local resident, it's not something I've ever come across. If no citation is added within the next 48 hours, it will be removed and stay removed until a citation is provided. Waggers (talk) 21:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Waggers - honestly local youths do call it 'The Ford' ie "we'll meet up the Ford tonight etc". It's going to be hard to provide a citation but this is honestly what teenagers refer to Chandler's Ford as. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.195.202.55 (talk) 00:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Waggers, I can't see what use there is of teenage slang in a Wikipedia article. I have heard it being called The Ford, but it's by no means a universally accepted alternative for its name.131.231.223.41 (talk) 00:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

If you live near a big ford, you might call it "the ford." Just like people who live near NYC often just call it "The City." I'd find it highly unlikely that any distinctive feature that has nothing similar to it locally wouldn't be referred to as "the <insert anything here>." So unless this is nonlocally known as "The Ford," it doesn't need a mention here. Someguy1221 (talk) 01:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I think that's fairly conclusive. It's coming out and staying out. Waggers (talk) 08:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Reference found - The Ford is Chandler's Ford's historical name - The village acquired this name from either the ford on the Winchester-Southampton road or that on the Hursley Road. In the late 16th Centrury Chandler's was added to the name - its origin remains a mystery! —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Fordarian (talk • contribs) 18:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Puts paid to Wagger's "It's coming out and staying out" heheheh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.195.202.55 (talk) 19:48, 9 December 2007 (UTC)