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Contents 1 Endgame 2 Non-Canon Novel Reference 3 Rank 4 Serial Number 5 Valjean 6 Chakotay's Personality 7 Chakotay's first name is "Fred".

[edit] Endgame

Template:Spoiler Warning: Spoiler for episode Endgame

I'm pretty sure the grave in Endgame listed Chakotay's birth and death as being 2326-2394 (it was previously listed as 2329-2394 on the article). Also, I removed the date of death, since that grave came from an alternate timeline and it is very possible that Chakotay's death would occur at some other point in the new timeline 23:10, 6 Nov 2004 Q0

Where did 2404 for Chakotay's death come from? I know Endgame took place in 2404 during the future scenes, but Chakotay's grave in that episode was listed as being 2394 (but still, that was an alternate timeline). Where did the 2404 come from? Is there evidence from somewhere else in the show that that is the date of Chakotay's death? Q0 15:16, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I reinserted Chakotay's birth in the article. Even though the grave was from another timeline, only the date of death is likely to be different in other timelines. The date of birth should stay the same. Q0 22:34, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Non-Canon Novel Reference

I've noticed wiki-articles on Star Trek characters refer sometimes to the novels. They are NOT canon, and CANNOT be part of the trekverse. So many conflicting and complicated back stories end up in the hundreds of Star Trek novels, it's ridiculous to pick and choose what to add to a wiki. Even if they make sense, any references to novels should absolutely be removed.

[edit] Rank

Chakotay was given the rank of Commander, not Lieutenant Commander. Captain Janeway's previous First Officer (pilot episode), held the rank of Lieutenant Commander. GoodDay 21:21, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

That's what I thought, too. FIXING! EDIT: And I also included the fact that his burth name is Amol Kotay.

Yet the rank insignia he wore has been generally considered to be that of a Lieutenant Commander (Two Gold and One black pips is a non-provisional LCDR)... The series bible also referred to him as a Lieutenant Commander

I'm eating crow, you're right. Chakotay's 'provisional' rank is Lieutenant Commander. GoodDay 02:30, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Serial Number

Any way (or place?) to include it? It's 47-A-612. Trekphiler 15:43, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Valjean

Where is this refrenced in the series? The only place I ever remember seeing this is on a non-cannon ST:CCG Card. EnsRedShirt 08:34, 28 March 2006 (UTC) never mind must read entire article ;) EnsRedShirt 08:35, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chakotay's Personality

That was a nice summary of Chakotay's history.

Now, as someone who's never seen Voyager, what I'd really like to know is how Chakotay's character plays out, and what role he fills next to the other members of Voyager's crew. That is more important than any amount of made-up trivia.

In general, I'd like the Wikipedian fans of any franchise to stop flooding articles with random 'facts' and start getting to the crux of the matters at hand, but that's just me.

- The sad fact is that his character just did not "play out". He was a "spiritual" native stereotype who's only role was to sometimes agree with Captain Janeway. In the last season he was a small part of a Seven romance sub-plot.

[edit] Chakotay's first name is "Fred".

He mentions it in this interview: [1] Avengah (talk) 08:11, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

That was not an interview of Chakotay; that was an interview of an actor. The actor was joking; he might as well have said “Izzy”. Chakotay is the son of someone named “Kolopak”, so presumably Chakotay's first name is just, well, “Chakotay”, with no distinct last name.

It's no accident that Chakotay's name is rather like that of Tonto. Chakotay was a stereotype — politically correct, perhaps, and created with blundering notions of respect, but still a stereotype. —SlamDiego_←T 20:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)