Talk:Cesare Cremonini (philosopher)

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More information about this article... The following comments have been left for this page: Contents 1 WPBiography rating 2 Photo request 3 Wording 4 Aristotle proved ... [edit] WPBiography rating Explaining my own rating (I did the article) in the WPBiography tag: class=Start : article is lacking in at least two key points: a detailled biography (early life in Ferrara, relationship with Alfonso II and other kings, problems with Jesuits and colleagues, ...) an in-depth exposé of his teachings and œuvre: philosophy (nature of the soul), astronomy (treatises about the moon and the skies), medicine (treatises against Galenus, etc.), ... priority=low : he was famous and influential in his time, and useful to understand this time and place, but isn't very important or relevant nowadays philosophy-wise. One could almost say Cremonini is to Galileo, what Salieri is to Mozart. 62.147.36.119 19:57, 12 February 2007 (UTC) (edit)

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An entry from Cesare Cremonini (philosopher) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 13 February 2007.

[edit] Photo request

Some ancient pictures available online:

• A large B&W portrait:
  • original page, GIF at http://www.filosofico.net/cremonino.htm
  • cropped copy, Université Libre de Bruxelles, JPEG at http://www.ulb.ac.be/philo/scholasticon/nomenC.htm

• A 1623 color portrait: JPEG at http://www.geocities.com/cnalin21205/filosofiitaliani/cecrem-bio.htm

• A small B&W portrait: JPEG at http://www.phil-fak.uni-duesseldorf.de/philo/galerie/neuzeit/cremon.htm

62.147.36.119 19:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Those pictures would probably be best uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons so all Wikipedias (and other Wikimedia projects) can use them. I'm not confident with image placement as I can't see what I'm doing. Which images would look best in the article? The article may need more than one because of its length. Graham87 04:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wording

Nice work on the article. However, I find this wording unclear: "The jealousies caused by this protection helped his eventually accepting a position outside his native province." I copyedited that earlier for grammar - I hope I didn't make it even worse in the process. :) The issue I have is with the word "helped" - it's ambiguous. Did the jealousies make his work difficult - like putting a strain on the relationships with the people he was working with? Or did the people who were jealous of his protection actively try to get him out of Cento? In short, did he want to go to Padua? If the jealousies about his relationship with Alfonso II caused him to leave Cento, then "forced" or "compelled" would probably be a better word than "helped". If it's one of the other cases, then more information should probably be given. Or if I'm just babbling about nothing, tell me - I don't know much about the history of philosophy. Graham87 05:31, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aristotle proved ...

"... alleging that Aristotle had definitely proved that the Moon could only be a perfect sphere."

I'm interested in the arguments Aristotle used. Obviously this isn't the article to put them in, but could a link be included? -- 17:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC)