Talk:Center of the universe
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Hi, this is Anand Verma. Please can u provide information on "The centre of the universe". "Do our universe have any centre point?" please reply at--> anandverma43@gmail.com I will be thankful to u. Sincerely, Anand Verma
[edit] 12 June, 2007 cleanup
I've edited the page to conform to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages), and these are the entries I removed. If the entry already includes a link, that page does not include information pertaining to "center of the universe". If there is no link in the entry, I couldn't find a suitable one.
- An undesirable location to which all existence began and shall end.
- center of the universe is a misconception of the big bang. In the big bang, there is no center, and thus the universe has no center, even though common sense insists that an explosion should have a center to explode from.
- The (often derogatory) nickname of Toronto (spelled 'Centre').
- A spot designated as the "Center of the Universe" located on a pedestrian bridge over railroad tracks near East Archer and North Boston Streets near downtown Tulsa, Oklahoma. When standing in the middle of a brick formation laid into the bridge and speaking in any direction, an unexplained phenomenon causes the speakers voice to be amplified and reverberated; however the effect may only be heard by the person standing within the formation.
- A small town in Northern Ontario called Chelmsford.
- The University of New Mexico, in Albuquerque, has a coordinate origin sculpture of square concrete culvert, identifying that spot as the Center of the Universe.
- Centre of the Universe is a location in the TV show LEXX, where the Greater Uncertainty Principle comes into play.
- Centre of the Universe is where the timeship Terminus is located in the Doctor Who TV show.
If anyone knows more about these entries, or if articles are written about them, they can be re-added. PaladinWhite 12:57, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Some reasoning from Dave.
According to mathematicians it is not possible to locate the centre of the universe. Part of there reasoning is that viewed from any galaxy that point seems to be the centre as the universe as it is expanding at an even rate. Also as we do not know what shape the universe is how can we calculate the centre? However on reading more I have found that at the extreme limits of our ability to see into space we can see the gases that started the universe. It is stated that these gases can be seen in every direction. So let’s assume that we are on one of the far of galaxies as we look out into space we see the other galaxies moving away from us in the same way as we do here on earth in our own galaxy. However from that far of galaxy would we still be able to see those distant gases in every direction? I think not surly those distant gases would only be visible in every direction if you are at the centre. If you are closer to one side then the gases would be seen more easily in one direction and possibly not seen at all in the opposite direction! This also infers that if we can see the same in every direction then the universe must be round! At least as far as we can see those gases. True that past that point the shape of the outer limits may be very different. --Daveseein (talk) 14:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
19th September 2007. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.206.34 (talk) 10:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
More thoughts from Dave.
Now we learn that in an attempt to prove the big bang scientist have looked at the temperature of space. It would seem reasonable that if you look towards the centre of the original big bang it would be hotter than if you are looking away from the centre. However what they have found is that space is the same temperature in whichever direction they look! This is in itself evidence that the big bang did not happen however scientist are bending there theories so as to suit what they believe rather than look for another possible reason as to why things that they find in space do not support the big bang theory! We know that the planets speed up and slow down as the orbit the sun. What is to say that the galaxies are not doing the same thing as they orbit the centre of the universe? Thereby as they become closer to the centre they would speed up this would look as if they where becoming further apart. When they start to move away from the centre they will start to slow down this will then look as if they are starting to collapse back to the origin. However this could be a continues process as we orbit the centre of the universe. At this time we are unable to see the centre as it is to far away! Space would then be the same temperature as it has always been, no true expansion no true collapse just an orbit that is larger than we can imagine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.250.42 (talk) 10:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC) --Daveseein (talk) 14:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
The theory collapses
Yes even more proof that the big bang never happened. One of the reasons that are given for proving the big bang is as previously mentioned all the galaxies are moving away from each other hence the gaps between them are growing. So if this is true how come that two galaxies are actually on a collision coarse with the Milky Way? One is a small dwarf galaxy while the other is the much larger Andromeda galaxies. The reason that the centre of the universe cannot be found is because there is no centre! An irregular shape often has no actual centre only regular shapes can have a true centre. To realise this you must think of the shape as three dimensional. Also if all the galaxies are moving away from the force of the big bang then they would all be moving in the same direction and not moving towards each other. So many of the theories are looked at in two dimensions those that do this seem to forget that space has four dimensions so cannot be properly looked at in two dimensions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dave --Daveseein (talk) 14:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC)86.112.205.96 (talk) 14:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
