Talk:Celine's laws

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[edit] Merging

Opposed. Celine's Law are covered by several nonfiction book by Wilson that don't even involve the character. They deserve their own article.--Primalchaos 11:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Opposed. What the above guy said. While they were originally mentioned in Illuminatus! -trilogy, they have been used in other places, too. And not only by Wilson. --Smobey 15:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Opposed. Ditto, they stand outside their fictional context just like the Three Laws of Robotics (though, obviously, not as widespread outside the originating works). — Ashmodai ^{(talk · contribs)} 05:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Opposed. I have even seen them quoated in social science articles

[edit] Photo of Communists

The inclusion of the photo of Stalin, Lenin, and Kalinin on this page suggests that these people are examples of "honest politicians who believed in a good cause." Did Robert Anton Wilson believe that they were such honest politicians? Otherwise, perhaps the picture represents undue editorializing. David Pierce 06:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Lenin and the Communist Revolution in Russia are directly cited in Prometheus Rising, as examples of dangerous idealist politicians.--Primal Chaos 12:02, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

As I recall from the PoliSci101 course I had a while back, Lenin did actually believe in the ideals of Communism. A lot of what we view as Soviet Russia now was the result of Stalin's manipulating and altering the system for his own benefit after the fact. (If someone has a counter to this, I would like to hear it.) (StarkeRealm (talk) 18:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC))