Talk:Celebrity culture

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This has a serious NPOV issue. I dislike the celebrity culture as much as anybody, but this isn't neutral. -- User:Tom Morris (not logged in)

Very much agreed. violet/riga (t) 20:35, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Not just a NPOV issue, but it's badly written and assumes too much previous knowledge of celebrity culture: it doesn't define what it is as much as add notes to its meaning. I will rewrite it when I have a chance.--Mike 17:48, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll try to improve this article when I have time. I'll put it on my watchlist. Singerisbored 22:59, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

• hello, i just did alot of work on this page, i think it deserves it, alot of interesting things can be said here. for the part of listing unapreciated celebrities, lets add abillion, i cant think of any more tonite. what do you think? Spencerk 06:45, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

It's certainly much better now. :)Singerisbored 17:36, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Definition of celebrity

This gets into a Family Resemblance problem, on which it's perfectly sane to disagree with one another. The example of posthumous fame aren't very good, in my opinion, because we haven't got a clear definition of what a celebrity is. We can say that Socrates is a celebrity, but I don't think that we mean the same thing as when we say that Paris Hilton is a celebrity. Socrates or Vincent van Gogh are technically celebrities, but within the context of the articles, surely we should list showbiz-type celebrities of the sort that would be found in a modern media-driven system of celebrity. I'm thinking of people like James Dean, Jimi Hendrix and Marilyn Monroe. There isn't a cut and dried definition of celebrity, but I think that these fit better than the ones currently listed in the article. Thoughts? --Tom Morris (talk)