Talk:Catalan phonology
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Regarding the ela geminada, is it ever written with the Unicode character Latin Capital Letter L with Middle Dot? [1] Or do most people type the dot independently? A-giau 01:30, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- May I suggest a few tables? They make it a lot easier to get a general picture of the sounds. Template:prettytable is very useful for this purpose. Check out Swedish phonology or Dutch language. Peter Isotalo 22:37, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Copyediting guidelines
I'm in the process of formatting the article. This means:
- IPA conversion: almost done, spotted a few mistakes of my own. See IPA in Unicode. If you add to the article, use {{IPA| (whatever) }} to insert phonemic or phonetic notation, even if it is not a specific IPA character.
- Citation forms: for Catalan words (or English words) used as examples, Wikipedia italics; for glosses, "double quotes". For example: llop "wolf". No parentheses or commas.
- For spellings: italics. I'll be changing single quotes (like 'qu') to italics (qu).
- Latin words: I don't think it's OK to cite Latin in Small Caps just because it's traditional to do so in some grammar books, or as if Latin were more important than other languages so as to deserve a different notation.
Input on this would be appreciated. --Pablo D. Flores 13:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Please convert the article to being just a phonology. Having a sound-to-orthography table at the bottom of the article isn't a problem, but the focus is way too much on spelling rather than phonology right now. The article is a pretty hard read, too, since it consists of almost nothing but bullet points. Try to convert it into more free-flowing prose.
- Peter Isotalo 08:22, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Question
Under vowels, shouldn't it say "/ə/ e, è. Only in unstressed position"? I'm not exactly a linguistics expert so I might be wrong, but right now it contradicts the info under the other vowel categories... ugen64 01:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Use of tilde
Why is the Catalan language's use of the Latin alphabet not discussed here? I wanted to find information about Catalan's use of the tilde but can find no such description here, nor in the Catalan language article. This seems a serious omission. Badagnani 10:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Lead paragraph
This article needs a lead paragraph. Badagnani 23:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Scope
The article's scope is a bit muddled between phonology and orthography. Other than Latin, all the other phonology pages are just about the phonology. I think there should be a Catalan phonology page and Catalan orthography page, the latter of which would be one and the same with Catalan alphabet. If nobody opposes, I'll probably start it myself in a few days. Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 00:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vowel harmony
Vowel harmony [2] lists "dialects of Catalan language", but the Catalan phonology does not mention vowel harmony. Is one or the other incorrect? Barefact (talk) 15:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- I've never heard of it. The vowel harmony article doesn't source it so I'd say we remove it until someone finds a source. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 18:37, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Would you consider questioning the fact instead of outright removal? I wonder if there is some meat in it. Barefact (talk) 02:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe you're right... Let's see, a cursory look at Google scholar shows some interesting citations
- Jiménez, Jesús (1998). "Valencian Vowel Harmony". Rivista di Linguistica 10: 137-161.
- There's also this book which has a chapter on vowel Harmony in Romance languages and goes into detail about Valancian VH. The Catalan Wikipedia does have this ma[ that shows vowel harmony in Valencian but the cited source is a geocities website. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 03:11, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe you're right... Let's see, a cursory look at Google scholar shows some interesting citations
- Would you consider questioning the fact instead of outright removal? I wonder if there is some meat in it. Barefact (talk) 02:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
