Talk:Castilian War of the Communities

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"Castile herself was in difficulties due to poor harvests and..."

Isn't Castile a place? Using "herself" could be confusing. CW 15:52, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Castile is a country, but She/herself "refers to abstractions personified as feminine, and also for the soul, a city, a country, an army, the church, and others." (see she) --Polylerus (talk) 22:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you can speak of a "Spanish state" in the 16th century (see Aftermath subsection). Spain was a geographical term for the peninsula, much as "Britain" is a term for a large island, long before it was unified politically. Anybody with an insight here? I replaced it with "integrated into the Spanish Habsburg domain" - but that seemed even less satisfactory and so have reverted to "Spanish state" - but that seems anachronistic. Charles never used the title of King of Spain, but rather King of Castile as well as calling himself King of Aragon. Would it be better that the line about "integrating" Castile be dropped altogether? Rob 6-Jan-06 Have thought about a bit more - it still was the "Habsburg" as the empire had not yet been divided by Charles. Dropped "Spanish State" as it didn't exist. 7-Jan-06

The term Rex Hispaniae is used all along the Reconquest of Spain (since Alfonso III, 866-910), but the "Anónimo Mozárabe" chronicle, in the middle 8th century, told us about the "destruction of Spain" by the arabs. I think the Reconquest made the abstract conception of a nation, Spain in this case, based in the idealized past of the gothic kingdom. This concept was only shared by the kings, aristocrats, and, specilly, the clergy. They incite the war against the moors, so the restauration of the spanish church can be achieved. Spain was an idea, not a State, an anachronism in the Middle Ages. In the period of the Hagsburg dinasty we have examples of references to Spain, not as a geographical territory, but as a nation. Quevedo refers to Spain as "mine fatherland" in one of his sonets, and Quixote tells Sancho that he will not find in Spain more than four to six knights errants. Spain is not an isolate case. The High Middle Ages were the origin of most of the European nations, some of them based with evidence in the ancient roman jurisdiction, like Spain, Gaul, or Italy. Instead, the present day idea of nation is not the saim that the one of middle ages or modern times. Everything changes with the time, we can't search for our point of view of the question in the past, because that of ours respond to our context. This doesn't means that our forefathers hadn't got an own concept of nation, who suits whit their era. Excuse my poor english.

V.M.A.