Talk:Carny

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[edit] This is a terrible entry

No sources for ANYTHING. Presenting carnies as both the rich and beautiful and poor and inbred. WTF is going on here? 198.6.46.11 21:52, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Maybe, but it does look very silly having lots of "citation needed" bits in the middle of sentences. I'll stick a single one at the end of the paragraph instead. mh. 23:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Info

More info on carnies can be found at carnytown.com

[edit] False informatizion

The revision made "as of 05:55, 29 August 2005" says that carny includes the insertion of the "iz" syllable to existing words. That sounds an awful lot like Snoop Dogg#Trivia, although in Snoop Dogg's case it is attributed to Frankie Smith and the Gap Band. Is this actually a feature of carny, or is somebody having us on?

Aren't some of the words attributed to Carny just regular English slang words? "Scratch" has always been a slang word for money, I don't see how this is or was specifically Carny. "Mark," too...you hear this word with the same meaning, in the 1970's period film The Sting...it just sounds like ordinary gangster slang. "Call" is used with its ordinary English connotation, too...I don't see how this should be attributed to another language or even to jargon--vendors of all types 'called' before carnies even existed. Dr spork 03:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

mainstream slang now, but at least some of these words did originate as carny slang--just because they've spead doesn't change that. Mark, for instance, started out from the practice of covertly putting some chalk dust on a customer at the gate who'd been observed to have a big wad of cash when he bought his ticket so people knew who to fleece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.100.201.52 (talk) 01:30, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FeezucKeezoff

The pronounciation in CarnyTalk is actually more of a eez (long e sound), not the izzle-speak (short i sound) that is popular today. Also, it's spoken very fast, with all the words kinda slurred together, and syllable separation & accenting are different, to make it even more difficult for the marks to follow. If ya want to really screw with someone's head, then you speak eezarny-keezay teezalk in eezig-peezay eezatin-leezay.

Gangster/criminal slang vs. carny slang is often a chicken/egg question, since there has always been a lot of overlap among the various underground sub-cultures.

Terry Yager 06:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cant?

Is this US-only or Canada too? It's not UK as far as I know. Do we think it is a cant? There seem to be similarities with polari as a language of travelling showground people. We should try and find more info on the structure, vocabulary etc - although this is obviously hard for secret languages.. Secretlondon 01:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another way

My family has spoke carny for years and years. It is more a long eee but with an rza as well. It is spoken very fast and slurred together. Everyone who speaks it adds a new spin to it, but it always seems understandable. Erin0513 20:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

  • I already said that. What're ya, new?<j/k> Terry Yager (talk) 23:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New words

I hope nobody objects to my latest edit being based on original research (20 years on the carnival circuit). It's very difficult to find articles to cite for this sort of thing. If it is a problem, feel free to revert. (I'll fill out more definitions later, when I have more time) Terry Yager (talk) 23:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moo

The word POKEMON is at the top of the page, just saying. And the "z's" have nothing to do with SnoopDOg, more along the lines of the made up school child language "gibberish"-Alle--68.202.8.159 (talk) 06:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)