Talk:Cardinal (passenger train)

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I have ridden this train. I ran out of steam writing about the beauty of Wilmington, Delaware, where lot's of Amtrak's unrepaired equipment can be seen. By the time I got to New Jersey, I just ran out of words to describe the "beauty" of Newark, New Jersey, etc. I almost made it to New York. Maybe someone else can help finish this article!!

Vaoverland 12:59, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Since we changed the name to Cardinal and Hoosier State, could anyone add some information about the Hoosier State portion? Is this a renamed Kentucky Cardinal, or what? Vaoverland 05:27, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

From what I can gather from Amtrak website, the Hoosier State operates as part of the Cardinal (same schedules) at this time. Perhaps cars are added and dropped at Indianapolis, and the state kicks in financially. If so, good for Indiana! Vaoverland 18:42, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

Not really...subsidizing mass transportation is not the proper role of govenrment. Kurt Weber 21:44, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Apparently we were both working on clarifying the schedule and route differences between the Cardinal and Hoosier State at the same time, but SPUI did a better job than the version I was working on. I did make one change to clarify that historic Sewell West Virginia is served by the Thurmond, West Virginia station. Good work, SPUI. Vaoverland 22:33, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Subsidized?

The article doesn't make clear whether the Hoosier State service is subsidized by the State of Indiana or not. Some googling doesn't turn up anything, but the frequency of service given the length and population is suspiciously high, so some sort of explanation (if one exists) would be useful. --Delirium 23:49, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I've never heard of Indiana subsidizing any Amtrak runs. The NICTD runs the South Shore Line from Chicago to South Bend, but that's a different thing (to them). --plaws 23:41, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Here we go again

I'm reading through the discussion about about trains vs routes vs trainsets and have to say, the Hoosier State and the Cardinal are two different trains, serving different customers (leaving aside that the former is mostly a way for Amtrak to move equipment from Chicago to the Beech Grove shop!) that happen to share a route. This is not like Acela and this is not like the Cal Zephyr. SPLIT THEM! --plaws 23:51, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

I am in agreement! these are two different trains, we should have separate articles. Tomas417 22:50, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Since you and I are, apparently, the only ones that care, I'll start splitting the articles ... --plaws 16:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Let the flames begin. It's done. --plaws 17:54, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Very Cool Tomas417 17:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Historical route -- Muncie?

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=James%20Whitcomb%20Riley lists the service as stopping in Muncie, Indiana at one time. Perhaps someone can give some details on this? --70.228.177.119 (talk) 14:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)