Talk:Capra (genus)

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Does anyone know how long it takes for a kid (just born goat) to mature enough to mate and how long gestation takes?
yes, and it takes 4 years
-pattyman

[edit] Tree Climbing & Eating Everything

aya is a goat I come from a goat farm (if that can be imagined). Our goats can, and have climbed trees -- this is true -- however, only certain trees are suitable for goats to climb. Trees that are easy for goats to climb are usually: 1. on a bit of an angle; 2. have a large circumference; 3. have bark that provides good footing (like big lumps, grooves, and irregularities).

Usually if a goat can climb a tree it won't be long before all of them are climbing on it -- and in time they will end up killing it. Also, if the tree is close to the barn, they can (and will) climb onto the roof.

Just a comment on the stereotype that goats eat everything: Goats do not eat everything, but they DO seem to chew on everything (which is where the stereotype comes from). Things I've seen goats chew on: tin (ie: siding on the barn); dried paint; tree bark (we used to have a few maple trees until the goats chewed off all the bark [to get to the sap] and killed them); wood panels; ropes & strings; clothing; and the list goes on and on. --Animus9 05:47, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Cool comment! Fits with what I have seen on goats climbing trees. (It's more like a crawling/pulling up thing) Dysmorodrepanis 03:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Cool indeed... but it's original research! --User:Yuletide 140.233.97.93 (talk)

[edit] Goat Milk

The odour (and taste) of any milk is mainly dependent on what the animals eat. It's incorrect to suggest that goat milk contains an odour that is not present in other milk. As any dairy farmer will tell you -- if your animals eat a bunch of weeds (or other stuff they're not supposed to be in to) you can expect weird smelling/tasting milk. This is equally true of Cows milk.

The commercial goat milk I've drank is usually indistinguishable from that of cows milk. As for farm milk -- well -- that depends entirely on how well regulated the goats' food is. --Animus9 02:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If you've ever had goat stomach, you'll know how disusting it is.
But the milk is pretty good, it's really frothy

That's true. I had goat milk at a farmer's and they had also cream made from another batch of milk. The cream had a strongish taste, I did not like it. The milk, OTOH, was like fresh cow's milk, only richer, and kind of thicker. Dysmorodrepanis 03:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is it true that snakes hate goat smell?

I was told by someone, probably old wives' tale that snakes hate the smell of goats and don't dare come near the presence of goat/s. Is this true? If yes, is it verifiable to be put in wikipedia?--Idleguy 04:11, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Not to the best of my knowledge -- nor have I ever observed this to be true. --142.161.206.85 17:50, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This appears to be based on the idea that the markhor (which reputedly means "snake eater" in Persian) eats snakes. Needless to say, this is quite unlikely for a herbivore, but it seems well-entrenched (killing snakes by trampling is another matter). Whatever the reason, the roots of the idea that goats are arch-enemies of snakes seem to lie there, and this likely inspired the stories of snakes hating goat smell (which are probably not supported by any scientific observations). JRM · Talk 18:29, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Alright seriously, who goes online and repeatedly vandalizes an article about goats? Why would you do that? I swear, 15-year-olds should not be allowed to use the internet. Pulsemeat

re: "Goats are the only animals with an innate sense of democracy. That's why they're sometimes referred to as "nature's president" [edit]

I question the appropriateness of this sentence in a reference work without stronger reasoning or a cited source. It is an extraordinary claim and frivilous, in my opinion. By definition democracy is a human pursuit and at best, goats live in a heirarchy with the alphas gaining their position by strength and agression. I will cut this sentence out unless someone says otherwise or can help me see the light!

Whoever the person is that wrote the sentence above,
needs to learn to use breaks in there response. Pattyman 00:36, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kosherific

Did you know goats are kosher? (Especially if they've been baa mitzvah'd) Trekphiler 17:04, 24 December 2005 (UTC) (Sorry)

Together with milk, they're not... 惑乱 分からん 18:10, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yaron?

The animal most commonly known as a "YARON" the domestic goat 

What would this mean? Is it vandalism? 惑乱 分からん 18:09, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beryl The Goat

why not come along and meet Beryl the goat taking the world by storm fun filled goat facts and pictures and discussions about anything farm related just point your browser to http://www.berylthegoat.co.uk you wont be sorry ;) goats suck man form hilary duff

This is just a run-of-the-mill bulletin board having nothing to do with goats. Lambiam^Talk 07:30, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Goat deserves a separate article

I moved Goat to Capra (genus) to fill a void left by Capra having been made a disambiguation page with a redlink Capra (genus). While not ideal, I thought this was the best quick solution among several, a main rationale being that the article as it stands has mainly the Capra genus as its topic. I feel, though, that the (domestic) goat deserves an article on its own. For that reason I did not adjust any Goat links; what is a redirect now could become a direct tomorrow. Lambiam^Talk 07:20, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I had not realized there was already an article Domestic goat. So I made Goat now a redirect to Domestic goat, which starts off with: "For general information on goats, including mythology and wild species, see Capra." Lambiam^Talk 07:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taxonomy

Taxonomy is in need of a more thorough dicussion. While the picture-table approach is nice, it tends to make the page hard to read, layout-wise. Try Mol.Phyl.Evol.40:739–749 for a very interesting paper on taxonomy. Dysmorodrepanis 03:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)