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[edit] POV problems

In reading and reviewing this article, it would appear that there are some galring POV problems. One that jumps out is the heading "Movements towards 'humane' execution." The use of quotes around 'humane' definately give away the author's point of view on the topic. This specific problem is rather widespread, particularly in that section. Also, the sidebar "Homicide" box might be going a little overboard. Without specific elaboration, it gives the distinct impression that all forms of homicide are capital offenses, when, as point of fact, they are not. Case in point, self-defense (e.g., justifiable homicide) is not a capital offense, despite being techincally homicide. All that, and the fact that more attention is given to the controvery (with distinct POV problems) surrounding capital punishment than to capital punishment itself gives this article some glaring problems. Smit8678 (talk) 04:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

1. Advocates of the death penalty talk about humane and inhumane forms, so I don't see how that is a problem. Are you saying that there is a point of view which sees all forms of execution as equally humane? (even stoning?) 2. Capital punishment is a form of justifiable homicide. 3. I don't think your assertion of giving more attention to the controversy than capital punishment itself holds up in light of the actual numbers of characters in this article. Most of the discussion of the controversy has been pushed out into the other articles in the sidebar. SBPrakash (talk) 10:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What is the word 'gay' doing there?

'In most places that practice GAY capital punishment today, the death penalty is reserved as punishment for premeditated murder, espionage, treason, or as part of military justice.' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.216.202.168 (talk) 21:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Obviously vandalized. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 20:03, 29 February 2008
What picture? There are a few & all look fine. Ok, I see now what you mean when one hides the content. I'll move the map down then. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 21:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Another song

Craigg1 (talk) 11:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC) There is a song by Steve Earl called Billy Austin that was used in the soundtrack of Dead Man Walking which is about a man on death row. I think it deserves to be included as a great example of "death row" music.

[edit] Debate summary

Has anyone made the argument that a slow death of natural causes after decades of confinement is a worse punishment than a quick and painless death?

Also what is the deal with these Wikiproject boxes here on the talk page, to the right? Could someone please put them back up top in a multiple-Wikiprojects-box so they don't bunch the [edit] links? SBPrakash (talk) 12:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC) 58.106.129.98 (talk)

[edit] proposed citation

I propose the following citations for sentence in the summary where it is stated that capital punishment has a higher financial cost than incarcerating an inmate for life. The following applies to the United States only and most of the studies following are done within a single state, are therefore not applicable throughout the country, but do provide proper citation to the theory that capital punishment is more costly.

Gold, Russell. The Wall Street Journal: Counties Struggle With High Cost Of Prosecuting Death-Penalty Cases. The Wall Street Journal, January 9, 2002.

Tempest, Rone. Death Row Often Means a Long Life; California condemns many murderers, but few are ever executed. Los Angeles Times, March 6, 2005.

Kansas Audit of Department of Corrections. Legislative Post Audit Committee. Legislative Post Audit Committee, December 19, 2003.

Vermont Legislative Research Shop. Deterrent Value and Cost of Death Penalty. The University of Vermont, April 23, 2001.

Judicial Conference Committee on Defender Services. Subcomittee Report. Subcommittee on Federal Death Penalty Cases, 1997.

Phillip J. Cook & Donna B. Slawson. The Cost of Processing Murder Cases in North Carolina, 1993. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jssfub (talk • contribs) 01:34, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject

I would propose creation of a Wikiproject on capital punishment. I do not think that it is too arcane of a subject, and many large articles could fit under the scope, including those dealing with lethal injection and human rights in China, among many others. CopaceticThought (talk) 23:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Where's the article on public executions?

You know, like in the olden days such as revolutionary France where little old ladies would do their knitting in front of the Madame Guillotine, etc.?

Why does "Public Execution" redirect to here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.211.78.60 (talk) 05:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)