Talk:Canadian Shift

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[edit] WTF? Serious!

What the FUDGE is this???

As a Canadian living in Western Canada, I find this description of the vowel shift totally inaccurate. I have never heard anyone from western or Central Canada talking this way. These vowel shifts sound like an eastern Canadian accent. Lcorriveau 05:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree... I am from Victoria, BC and I've never heard anyone from BC talk with this supposed "Canadian Shift". I am thoroughly confused and pissed off by this article. --FinnHawk 21:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Same here and I'm from Toronto -- nothing from this article sounds like anything I've ever heard -- what exactly does "found among many anglophone Canadians" actually mean? --Modus.irrealis 02:26, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I have never come across anyone talking like that, either. However, in emphatic speech, some of these features can be found; for example, "I couldn't stand her anymore so I LEFT her" may sound like "I couldn't stand her anymore so I laughter" to an American speaker. —^Jack_Lumber^/tɔk/ 19:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I have, and I'm in Vancouver. An American friend thought I said "dumpster" when what I actually said was "Dempster". Cckitpw 17:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

This article is confusing to me, I've never seen any of these differences before. Ontarian English is no where different from northern American English, and so I've never heard any of this "Vowel Shift". I highly doubt that hat [hat], is like the US hot, or bit [bɪt] like bet. And bet [bɛt] is far from close to but [bʌt]... Io Katai 21:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Then you'd be wrong. 208.104.45.20 (talk) 22:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

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Go to the http://www.mouton-online.com/anae.php ANAE demo sound page and listen to the speakers of Canadian English. Many of them have [a] for [æ], especially those from Alberta. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.45.70 (talk) 14:47, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unclear section

He studied a diverse range of English-speaking Montrealers, and found that younger speakers had a significantly retracted /ɛ/ and /ɪ/ compared with older speakers, but did not find any significant retraction.

Uhm. So is there significant rectraction or is there not?? An "among the older speakers" missing at the end maybe? --Tropylium 17:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Eep! There is. I meant to say that there wasn't significant lowering. I have corrected it. —Felix the Cassowary 01:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)