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Article contributed by Renato M.E. Sabbatini, PhD: http://www.sabbatini.com/renato

Image: 'DSCN1511-Campinas-SP-Brazil.JPG' contributed by TravelingFool

This article is well researched and has tons of information. I noticed one mistake: the annual per capita income of the citizens cannot possibly by 2,700 dollars a year. A number must be missing, perhaps the "1".

I think the article could be more objective without mentioning the names of every town in the metropolitan area, every city twinned with Campinas, and every district in the city. Are these names really essential for an encyclopedia article? The city twinning section, the metropolitan region of Campinas, and the administrative districts sections could either be eliminated all together or summarized in a brief paragraph. Most of this information is not relevant for the average reader and useless since there are no articles written on these names.

vogensen@portcult.com

As one of the main contributors, I thank you for your suggestions. I agree with you that many details are unnecessary and we will shortly find time to edit out some contributions by other eager "campineiros" who love the city and are willing to make this article its most complete guide which can be found in English, bar none. Now. for the detail of per capita income, it is correct, unfortunately. This highlights the tremendous differences in wealth. Therefore, I wrote a new section explaining this. Suffices to say that the lawful minimum income in Brazil is US$ 150 per month!!! --R.Sabbatini 02:52, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. Yes, the new info does make the article more interesting. That figure of the per capita income still seems very low when you consider the wealth of Campinas though I am well aware of the huge differences between rich and poor. If I were you I would eliminate the twinning section,the metropolitan district names and the administrative district names. The average reader is more interested in the human aspect of the city. At least that is my opinion. All in all you did a good job and should be proud. vogensen@portcult.com

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Renato, I found this statistic about GNP percapita from Nationmaster: $8,016.64 per person for all of Brazil. The source is the CIA Handbook 2002. I think it is the GNP based on buying parity. Another stat from http://www.latinbusinesschronicle.com/statistics/gdp/percapita.htm gives 4,297 for 2005. In another site: http://www.latin-focus.com/latinfocus/countries/latam/latgdppc.htm the figure is 3,500 for 2004. All give different numbers but I still think yours are too low. Since Campinas is one of the richest cities in Brazil it must have a higher per capital income than what you give, which would be true of Teresina. --R. Vogensen 15:50, 15 December 2005

Thanks again. The figure you mention is PPP (Purchase Power Parity). Please see the table I have added to Brazil main article. I don't know the PPP figure for Campinas, so I didn't put it there, but is probably around 9,000 USD, which makes then sense. --R.Sabbatini 10:26, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

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About the twinning section, I liked that. I lived in campinas for about 20 years, never knew those things and found it very interesting. The other sections are also a good start point for people looking for other cities around campinas and I think we should leave it. It is not that big that is really making trouble. --T.Bartolomei 01:02, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] wikify

I removed the {{wikify}} tag. I do not know why it was there in the first place. Jon513 11:08, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Because if the history section _→AzaToth 11:11, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

what about it? the wikify tag says that the article has to be brought in line with the Wikipedia:Guide to layout. That is

1. An introductory section.
2. wikilinks where appropriate
3. section and subsection
4. images and templates as appropriate
5. and a Standard appendices if necessary.

The article needs cleanup, but not wikification (is that a word?). Jon513 14:47, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article Too Partial

Wow! This article is full of uncited claims, usually claiming that the has the highest/the better/the most... All this looks like boosterism and ufanism. According to Wikipedia's rules, all claims should be able to be confirmed, and the article collaborators should respect the "No Original Research" principle of Wikipedia. This looks like a tourist guide, there were even information about hotels. This is not a tourist guide, it's an encyclopedia, and should be kept that way.