Talk:California State University, Chico

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[edit] Reputation

This addition to the "Reputation" section seems problematic to me:

In 2005, Chico State President, Paul Zingg, felt that that a majority of the problems with Chico’s party reputation was perpetuated by the local and national fraternities. In a controversial move, Paul Zingg passed bans on alcoholic drinks at fraternities and fraternity events that were associated with CSU, Chico. The school even had fraternities cancel their 2005 fall rush which was usually the most influential time for fraternities to recruit new students.

Although the City of Chico and CSU, Chico continue their efforts to improve their campus and shed the “party school” image, it is likely that CSU, Chico will forever be remembered as a party school despite the promising athletics and academic programs.

Is it fair to call the move "controversial?" The changes were made not just on Zingg's call, but with the assistance of a Greek Life Task Force, of which one-third of the membership was made up of Greek students. About the only way I could see "controversial" qualifying is because two local Greek organizations broke away from the university.

It also doesn't qualify why Zingg decided to look at the Greek system: an alcohol overdose during a Sigma Chi rush event that left a pledge in a coma for over a day, and the water intoxication death of Matthew Carrington in the basement of rogue fraternity Chi Tau.

Then look at the way the last sentence is written. Something about saying the school "even had" fraternities cancel rush doesn't sit well with me.

That whole second paragraph is a bloody disaster. It's attempting to predict the future. If nobody else has something to say about this over the next few days, I'm taking those changes to town.--71.134.47.156 06:01, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, it did prompt a civil rights lawsuit, so some people felt it was. I suppose you could leave the word controversial off and just say that there was a lawsuit over the new rules. --Pberry 14:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Uh, even if this is a controversial section, it's beyond ridiculous that CSU Chico has no mention of its party reputation ANYWHERE on its page. aubrey 02:14, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
The history of the "reputation" it laid out pretty well on Snopes[1]. Perhaps some of the facts there could be incorporated into the page. Pberry
Look, the last undid revision states it very well, things need to be sourced and have an encyclopedic tone. It's that simple. This isn't the op-ed page of The Orion. 76.20.15.12 17:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wildcat

I am fixing the "Wildcat" links per WP:DPL. Looking at the pictures, i assumed what is meant is a Bobcat, and i therefor edited the link that way. If this was wrong, please see Wildcat (disambiguation) for the correct link, and edit the links in this article accordingly. - - 'twsx'talk'cont' 13:38, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge from Chico University Arboretum

Please merge any relevant content from Chico University Arboretum per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chico University Arboretum. (If there is nothing to merge, just leave it as a redirect.) Thanks. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-12 01:16Z

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:CSU.PNG

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[edit] Famous Alumni

As a wiki reader and CSU, Chico alumnus, I feel that the "famous alumni" section is actually pretty sad. Many of the "famous alumni" do not have their own wiki pages, which might suggest that they actually aren't that famous. Some whose names are linked lead to pages about people that seem just to have the same name. A few do seem to be legitimately famous (Adnan Khashoggi had his face on the cover of Time magazine). But consider some of the others:

An engineer at Boeing? Well I don't recognize her name. Did she make major contributions to the design something famous? Or was she a junior engineer? It sounds like a tricky job (something I couldn't do), but does that mean she's famous?
CFO of Activant Solutions? What is Activant Solutions? Never heard of it or her. It sounds like perhaps this is a high paying job, but does that mean that she is famous?
Erik Markow, a "Recording Engineer." What did he record that was famous? He might be personally acquainted with some people that are famous, but is he himself famous? Or is this just a guy trying to make a living?
Chris Wondolowski, a soccer player... I've never heard of the team and wasn't specifically aware that there was such a think as Major League Soccer in the USA. Is he a particularly noted player? If you were to go up to an average person and say, "Can you please name 20 famous soccer players?" would they put him on their list?
Bruce Zinky, is a "musical instrument designer." From the stub about him, that doesn't even seem accurate. I've never heard of his company or him, have you? While it is admirable that he has followed his dreams does that mean that he is famous?
Founder of Cisco. Well that's a company I've heard about. But does that mean that she's famous? Can you name the founder of Coca-Cola, the founder of Target, the founder of IBM, the founder of Lay-ze-Boy? Just because the product is famous, does that mean that the person who founded the company that produced it is famous?
Maurice L. "Lee" McFann, a "Lieutenant General, USAF." He does seem to be in a highly responsible position, and to be a highly decorated officer, but does this make him famous?

I suggest that a higher threshold be applied for the "famous" designation. Ehb 22:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The Wikipedia notability criterion is whether or not third-parties have published information about them. Many of these would not qualify and could easily be deleted. However, the notability requirement is much abused on Wikipedia, so be mindful if you do. Gregbard 22:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:WildCat.jpg

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BetacommandBot 14:00, 29 August 2007 (UTC)