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Can anyone substantiate the team being renamed "California Seals" in 1974? I've never seen it mentioned anywhere else. Almost every source I've seen makes no mention of it, and several explicitly state the team was named "California Golden Seals" from 1970 'til they moved to Cleveland. --93JC 05:09, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

Here is a year by year of the team with their name:
Oakland Seals (1967 to 1970): [1]
California Golden Seals (1970-1974): [2]
California Seals (1974-1976): [3]
Cleveland Barons (1976-1978): [4]
I hope this helps! Masterhatch 18 August 2005
I'm pretty sure hockeydb is wrong. This site in particular: http://www.sealshockey.com/seasons.html, seems quite definitive. As you can see, the team's official '74-'75 and '75-'76 media guides both read "California Golden Seals". The official teams photos also read "California Golden Seals" (http://www.sealshockey.com/season_1974-75.html ; http://www.sealshockey.com/season_1975-76.html). As far as I know the only change the NHL made to the team in the '74 offseason was the uniforms: dropping the Kelly green and gold with white skates for Pacific blue, white and gold with traditional black skates. --93JC 02:43, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Cleveland Barons

I am wondering why this page is under the oakland seals if the the franchise ultimently became the Cleveland Barons before merging into the starsSmith03 16:45, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Currently, there seems to be a standard practice of separating teams that played in different cities if the time spent in each city is significant, for example Calgary Flames/Atlanta Flames. For teams that spend only a short time in a different city (for example Ottawa Senators/St. Louis Eagles) it is currently standard practice to group them together. For the Barons, it made more sense to group them with the Seals as they were essentially the same team, just different city. The barons didn't have a long enough or great enough history in Cleveland to warrent their own article. But this is only standard practice and not policy, but it is a standard practice that makes sense. Masterhatch 16:55, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
Concur. As to that, I was looking at the separate pages for the Kansas City Scouts and the Colorado Rockies last night and wondering whether they should be combined, seeing as the team was in KC for only two seasons. RGTraynor 03:10, September 7, 2005 (UTC)


How about since they were the California Golden Seals twice as long as the Oakland Seals have the page under California?Smith03 19:11, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Last team to fold?

Yes, they were the last team to vanish from the four major leagues, but there were still at least three WHA teams that folded afterwards (Indianapolis, Cincinatti, and Birmingham). Just wanted to clarify that. Doogie2K 19:29, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think anyone would dispute that, but just as many wouldn't call the USFL or the XFL "major leagues," not many would call the WHA a major league on a par with the NHL. RGTraynor 05:43, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] November not December 1967

I know there is a website out there about the Seals and they state the team name was change Dec 1967 from Cal to Oak. However I have done research using Mpls Tribune newspaper on microfische(sp) from that era and found an article from Novemer 1967 about the name change with the name change occuring at that time (November not December of 1967) I have change the article to read Nov but see it gets change back. I would suggest to people who live in the Bay area or any place that had a NHL team in 1967 to check with newspapers of that time to see when the change occur. Smith03 20:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


From the November 7 1967 Minneapolis Tribune page 24 Oakland Seals OAKLAND, Calif (AP) The California Seals of the National Hockey League are changing their name to the Oakland Seals, club owner Barry Van Gerbig said Monday (November 6).


the newspaper from that point on listed them as Oakland not California in the standings and game results Smith03 17:13, 22 June 2006 (UTC)


I agree with everyone on this point. In the newspapers I have consulted the team is called the Oakland Seals in November 1967. However, according to the NHL, in the 2006 Official Guide and Record Book (p. 9), the team officially changed names on December 8, 1967. Every other NHL guide I have found says the same thing, so it is not a typo. Maybe the Seals had planned to change names in November, but the name change did not become registered by the league until December. Maybe the newspapers just got itchy and started calling the team by its new name a few weeks too early.

[edit] The Lafleur trade

I've heard that it was either Gordon Labossiere or Carol Vadnais, rather than Ernie Hicke, whom the Seals got for the pick who turned out to be Lafleur. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Staszu13 15:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Denied. It was Labossiere and the pick that turned into Chris Oddleifson for Lafleur's 1st rounder.  RGTraynor  15:50, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Pollock sent Ernie Hicke and a first round draft choice in 1970 to the Seals in return for Francois Lacombe and a first round draft choice in 1971. http://www.legendsofhockey.net/html/spot_oneononep198802.htm

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