Talk:Cake decorating

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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Proposed merge with Cake 3 Cleanup 4 History 5 Images

[edit] Welcome

Welcome! I look forward to reading your comments.

Michael Prudhomme 03:51, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed merge with Cake

I'd like to keep this article separate, but I am bothered by the fact that most of the references cited here are from commercial sites or puff pieces rather than any historical food references. I'd like to see the commercial references removed, and more accurate food history to replace them. Nightngle 18:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Ditto, it's too large to merge.

Less commercial/promotional content would indeed by preferred.

I did a little style cleanup just to make it easier to read, but didn't check any of the writing or links themselves. --Quiddity 21:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I checked all of the links over the weekend, and they all worked. I'm a little confused by the cleanup tag. I didn't see any grammatical, syntax or spelling errors. The article is easy to understand. Is there another reason for the tag - such as one of these from Wikipedia's Cleanup Page: confusing/messy articles below and explain why they need to be cleaned-up (grammar, spelling, formatting, order, copyright issues, confusion, etc.)" Mahina Lee 13:01, 16 July 2007

The "Cake Decorating Classes" section is the most potentially problematic, due to its promotional nature.

I mainly intended the tag to agree with the assertion above, that it would be better if "the commercial references [were] removed, and more accurate [(npov)] food history [sources were added] to replace them." [my additions]

If there is a more appropriate cleanup tag, or regardless, please update as needed. :) --Quiddity 00:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Quiddity! As a retired English high school teacher, I was thinking maybe I've been retired for too long lol. I think there is a tag that recommends citation changes?

And since I'm fairly new to Wikipedia I could have it all wrong about the History sources, but when you get a chance, can you take a look at my History post and let me know what you think :-) Mahina Lee 12:24, 17 July 2007

I've left a welcome template on your talkpage :)

I just wandered in here to do some minor cleanup, so I'll leave your question below to someone more knowledgable (about both cakes and citations). (or you can read up on the relevant guideline at Wikipedia:Reliable sources, if you're not feeling overwhelmed yet ;) --Quiddity 06:46, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Quiddity! I will read that over this evening. I just checked in for a moment to "neutralize" the Cake Decoraing Class section :-) Mahina Lee 22:48, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History

This is regarding the history section of the Cake Decorating article. While a Nightowl Books sales page that describes the historical book mentioned in the article probably isn't the most authoriative source available, I don't see any problems with the usage of the other sources cited in the history section. The FOOD Museum Online is a not-for-profit (501) educational organization. Wilton Industries, while commercial, is a viable source having been the industry leader for over three quarters of a century. A history section on cake decorating would be remiscent to not include Wilton, but perhaps there is a more authoritative source for the section cited. Answers.com turns out to be an online dictionary that provides free access to topics from notable publishers. The article cited from here, "Flour and other Grain Mill Products" is provided, word for word, by the Gale Encylopedia of American Industries. Haven't checked the rest of the article yet. Mahina Lee 14:03, 16 July 2007

[edit] Images

I found this on the image description page for the 4th of July cake: This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike License version 2.5: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ Attribution must include author's name and Website url. Does this mean that the caption with photo credits should be replaced? Or is an attibution on description page sufficient? Mahina Lee 12:14, 17 July 2007

Attribution on the description page is sufficient, that way it doesn't have to be added separately for every usage-instance. --Quiddity 06:46, 18 July 2007 (UTC)