Talk:Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam

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Contents 1 Badly Written 2 Additions from Muslims? 3 Content section very biased 4 Shirin Sinnar Quotation

[edit] Badly Written

The problem with this article is that it is extremely biased but not in a pure POV way. The Declaration and Sharia Law itself say certain things, but then the Criticism section crticize those things. I mean, it's like: "The Declaration says X"; "The Declaration has been criticized for saying X". Fact is, this is an encyclopedia, not a debate on the merits of Sharia Law from a Western Point of view. The Declaration came into being because some Muslim nations considered that Western beliefs on human rights were incompatible with their own, and created their own statement. To criticize it because it is incompatible with Western human rights concepts is useless. It should only state that, because of its nature, it stands in opossition with Western Human Rights Conventions. Obviously, those that disagree with Sharia Law would criticize it for it, but then since this is pretty much a case of different opinions, an encyclopedic article does not benefit from the debate. And while they should be acknowledge, its really part of a different debate, perhaps even a different article.

This is very critical of the Islamic declaration of human rights. Both the 'Contents' and 'Criticisms' point this declaration as very critical. Although many of these points may be valid to us who don't necesarily believe in Islam, it does hold many aspects which are different and may be better to that of the UNDHR such as it bieng more community and equality oriented. --Clementduval 22:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Looks like 'ClementDuval' completely ignores the universal quality if the 'universal human rights'. Pointing out that Islam is the only major world religion that fails to accept the Universal Human Rights as laid down as foundation of the United Nations organisation apears a massive, partisan manipulation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.201.181.114 (talk) 20:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Additions from Muslims?

I disagree. This entry itself and the writing is the par of excellence; however, if there are Muslims that can provide _any_ defense of the Cairo Declaration, he (heh) should add a new section. As it stands, this entry is undeniably factual and the reader will find it impossible to assign _any_ worth to the C. Declaration, since it can all be summed up as the tautology "Sharia Law is".

[edit] Content section very biased

The content section of this article is very biased. Instead of giving an overview of the delaration, it is constantly criticizing it. Critisms belong only in the "Criticism" section. Bless sins 14:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I changed the article to the more flexible <ref> syntax, keeping your edits except for

The article however does say, in Article 1, "All men are equal in terms...without any discrimination on the basis of race...belief, sex, religion, political affiliation... ", and in Article 18, "Everyone shall have the right to live in security for himself, his religion, his dependents...".

as this is en:OR and/or POV countering Farouh Kazemi's position. You'll have to find notable sources who sustain your view. --tickle me 23:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I have found notable sources: [1]. in addition this source is pretty reliable. All I'm doing is quoting a source. I am not adding a POV, nor am I suggesting that someones POV is incorrect.Bless sins 23:51, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

The source that I had found and put into the "External links" section long before you began editing this article provides simply the declaration's text, not its analysis. Pecher ^Talk 08:55, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

WHose analyzing the source??? Have I made any attempt to analyze the source?? All I've done is quote the source.Bless sins 10:10, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

The Cairo Declaration states "true religion" to be the "guarantee for enhancing such dignity along the path to human integrity". (In the Preamble) It DOES NOT say that the true religion is Islam. IF it does tell me where. IF crtics say that it does, then link to the critic.Bless sins 01:26, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

The title of the document is the Declaration of Human Rights in Islam. There are copious references to Islamic Law in the document; and the Arabic phrase 'true religion' has the colloquial meaning of Islam rather than religion in general. --Steelangel (talk) 20:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shirin Sinnar Quotation

A quotation appeared in this section that attributed to me a view that I do not hold; in fact, my article cited by the wikipedia entry explicitly rejects that view.

I have removed the quotation. If you'd like to see the original article, you can read it at http://web.archive.org/web/19991109075328/www.jaring.my/just/UNhr50An.html

Thanks, Shirin Sinnar