Talk:Cainites

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[edit] References

Gustave Flaubert gives a clear description of the Cainites in his [i]Temptation of Saint Anthony[/i].

[edit] Apocrypha

"One of their apocryphal texts was the Gospel of Judas." - Isn't the text considered apcrypha from the viewpoint of mainstream Christianity, but the Cainites themselves would not have viewed it that way as this sentence implies? Шизомби 20:50, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Totally agreed. Besides, it seems to be that scientific evidence supports the idea of this text not being actually apocryphal and that it should be considered as "cannon" for the history of catholicism.--Job 00:45, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I would doubt that there is scientific or theological support for that.... Шизомби 01:13, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

In keeping with this, I altered the line ""One of their purported apocryphal texts was the Gospel of Judas" to read as "One of their purported religious texts was the Gospel of Judas," to reflect the fact that a) they would not have regarded said Gospel as apocryphal and b) we don't really seem to have irrefutable proof that they did use such a text (let alone that the sect existed one way or another). -- 18 November 2007

[edit] Actual Existence of Cainites?

Apart from Irenaeus though, is there any independent verification that a Gnostic group such as this ever existed? Irenaeus could have devised this 'sect' to demonise Gnostics through incorporating references to Cain, Judas and the Sodomites. User:Calibanu13.20, 29 July 2006