Talk:Cadbury Creme Egg

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I'm a bit unsure about the list of "Variants". Doesn't feel right, but I don't know why or what would be better. -- SGBailey 11:56, 2005 Mar 3 (UTC)


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[edit] Found good image

I found a good image of the new egg and old egg being compared by B.J. Novak. I put it up, too.  :) Xihix 21:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cadbury banned in Mainland Europe

I think it should be debated how Cadbury was citizised for not including 'chocolate' in their chocolates, and the ban of selling Cadbury products in Mainland Europe. Tom —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.36.228.192 (talk) 22:40, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Change in size, this is important

They have definately got smaller in the uk than even when i was a kid, and im only 24

They are still 39g in the UK - I got a box of 8 for easter which was e315g - that's over 39g each. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.31.252.45 (talk) 07:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC).
156g for 4 in the UK. (yes I know this is original research..) I could say I bought them specialy for wikipedia but it'd be a lie ;)Secretlondon 15:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes - we need someone to find an old wrapper from the 1970's, or perhaps a whole egg (in Scott of the Antarctic's cabin maybe?) to get to the truth of this question. They look so small now. --Stephend01 18:59, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Is the explanation that you've just gotten bigger since the 70s not convincing enough? --Krsont 00:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
If anyone watched Late Night With Conan O'Brien tonight, B.J. Novak from the Office provided indisputable proof that they have gotten smaller. Look for the video on torrents or something. --User:Tjwells 00:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
There are now two pictures from that show near the bottom of Cadbury Egg page. --Zerohourminuszero 01:54, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Check out this X-Entertainment article from 2003. it has a picture of the nutrition facts from 2003. 39 grams! which is 1.4 ounces, not 1.2! http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0771/ --mercatfat

The 2003 comment about the fact sheet makes it sound like it hasn't been updated since 2003. If you look at the milestones section it was updated in 2006, probably within knowledge of the upcoming size change

It has been stated that many food products come in smaller sizes now because we as consumers asked for it to be smaller, i.e, ice cream no longer comes in a half gallon, we didn't want that much ice cream at one time. Maybe Cadbury could explain the difference away for this reason!


[edit] Purple?

I'm sure the Creme Eggs I had this year (2005) had red, yellow and purple wrapping. However, the Cadbury's website still uses red, yellow and blue, so maybe it was a temporary thing. On another note, I edited the section about availability dates in the UK since, while it does seem to be possible to get them "out of season", it's certainly not common to see them beyond mid-summer. Loganberry (Talk) 00:28, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

The Creme egg wrapping has changed in the past few months; I'm not sure about the colours, but the chick on the wrapping has certainly changed. As in, there isn't one any more.

[edit] Availability

Can someone add information to the main article detailing the seasonal availability of this product, with information on how this impacts Cadbury's revenue (for the better or worse) --Stephend01 19:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Popularity in the US

I was thinking to add something about the Cadbury creme egg in the US. As the candy market is dominated by Mars Corp and Nestle, you don't normal see Cadbury products in stores. The creme egg is the only common Cadbury product seen in American stores. I'm not sure how to put this in a substantiated way, or whether this better belongs here or in an article about Cadbury (or maybe even 'Candy market in the US', but I doubt such a thing exists). Pimlottc 21:55, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

That's not necessarily true. I've seen half a dozen Cadbury products on the shelves of many drug stores and supermarkets in many US cities. While you don't get the same variety as in the UK (or even Canada) it'd be wrong to say the creme egg is the only Cadbury product on store shelves. 71.217.119.130 06:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Manufacture

Are they definately only produced at Bournville? The ones on sale in NZ have "Made in New Zealand" on the packaging, with the Dunedin (NZ) and Tasmania (AU) Cadbury addresses and the NZ and AU toll-free consumer numbers.

--NEW--

They are definately not solely produced in the UK (in fact also produced in North America and Oceania).

Confirming that Creme Eggs sold in Australia say "Made in New Zealand" on the shipping and presentation boxes -Maebmij 02:42, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Official response from an email to Cadbury: We manufacture the 38/40g Size Creme Eggs in Dunedin for both Australia and NZ. The Mini Creme Eggs are manufactured in Australia (for Australia and NZ). Bournville make the Creme Eggs for the UK. This is the first "season" that Australia has made the mini creme Eggs prior to this they were imported from the UK. arjoll

--What?--

"The inside of a Cadbury Creme Egg may be used to create a "Cadbury Creme Egg Omelete", though this is an uncommon and tricky practice." Is this a joke or simply juvenile writing? Belongs in an encyclopedia entry? No, perhaps not.

  • I made a cadbury creme egg omelette once, i was sick immediatley Outlaw640 14:25, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cardboard spinner things

Can anyone shed any more light on them? I added what I know but dont know the exact years.

[edit] Advertising Campaign

I'm confused. The popular How Do you eat yours? campaign surely featured Matt Lucas not Luke Kenny. I don't think Luke Kenny was in Shooting Stars so it's probably a mistake. I think Matt only played the character Sir Bernard Chumley in the ads, who later appeared in Little Britain, can anyone else remember? Also I seem to remember the wrappers had some green in them back in the mid-eighties and I was sorry that it disappeared later. Unless my parents had got some someone had brought into the country. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.241.151.198 (talk) 23:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

On the subject of ad campaigns, the brilliant Vivian Stanshall from the Bonzo Dog Doodah Band did the voice over for "How do you eat yours" in the 80s and is worthy of a mention as it is very popular: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PYjI-KN7GY I'm still looking for Matt Lucas's.

[edit] Proof

Caption on image says 2005 egg. I believe it should state 2006 egg. Unfortunately, this is based on previous information, but not cited.Matthew.groves 03:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Unsure to the photographic "proof" of a smaller egg. I can't read the weight on the wrapper, and who's to say the photo hasn't been doctored? Naysie 02:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

It was just on Late Night with Conan! :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.35.32.155 (talk) 05:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC).

They also placed them on Conan's desk so you could tell Novak wasn't just holding one closer to the camera or something. 67.23.118.230 23:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC) Nearly every candy has gotten smaller throughout the years... Snickers, M&Ms, etc. 70.104.16.217 21:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately one actor's complaint about a changing size does not a controversy make. And calling it one is POV. If his display on the Conan show is the only reliable source this is clearly a case of undue weight under NPOV as a view point held only by a minority.--Crossmr 23:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

No, but I have noticed the size change myself. So it's not one person's complaint. I'm all for nailing this down further, but as I see it this is a corporate lie on the behalf of Cadbury. Nodekeeper 07:45, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I reviewed the candy last year on my blog and documented the size as 1.38 ounces. This year they are 1.2 ounces. This is ONLY in the US. However, the site that everyone is pointed to with the FAQ is the one run by the UK home office of Cadbury. American Cadbury is made under license by Hershey's. The Hershey's site makes no cheeky claim about your size. --Typetive 03:01, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

That doesn't excuse the fact the size has changed Nodekeeper 07:45, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Why do they need an excuse to change the size? If they haven't lied to anyone in the US, why is it a problem. Companies change sizes all the time. Fuel and energy prices have gone up, as have raw materials. Either they raise the price of the item or the make it smaller. --Typetive 15:08, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I've cleaned up some of the items about the size differences and the fact that the American eggs are made in the United States by Hersheys. I'll try to hook up some citations to those later. --Typetive 15:25, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I went through the US CadburySchweppes Company (NYSE CSG) website, CadburySchweppes.com, and it also directs to the UK Cadbury FAQ that includes the contentious phrase. The Hershey licensee does not. However, I think anyone doing a search on Cadbury Creme Eggs is going to end up at either the US or UK site, cadbury.co.uk, and not Hershey. ProgramPat 06:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:OR and directly observable facts

I placed several Cadbury Creme Eggs of the new size on an electronic scale, and they each weighed 34 grams. How do I cite this? Is this WP:OR? If so, would stating that the sky is blue, or that objects generally fall down also be WP:OR? I realize I'm being a bit snarky here, but I'd like to know what the rules are. --Javance 02:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm afraid it would be original research - "it introduces an argument, without citing a reputable source for that argument". The reason Wikipedia requires reliable sources is so that other editors can check what you've said, and so that future editors can check your source if they're rearranging or expanding the article and want to keep information in context.
The colour of the sky and the details of gravitational theory are both completely, completely sourceable to existing texts, of course. If something is "obvious" or directly observable, then it's very easy to find a reliable source that backs it up. --McGeddon 08:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
One of the qualities Wikipedia strives for is verifiability. You can verify the color of the sky by stepping outside on a sunny day. You can verify the weight of a Cadbury Creme Egg by purchasing one and placing it on a scale. I suppose a way around this might be to use the nutrition label as a source. The current one is not online, but nevertheless it is easily verifiable by a trip to the grocery store. Now I guess I need to figure out how to cite packaging :-) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Javance (talk • contribs) 16:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC).


Here is the answer to my own question, from Wikipedia:Citing_sources:

If a particular claim in an article lacks citation and is doubtful, consider placing {{fact}} after the sentence or removing the claim.

It is neither doubtful, nor harmful, that this year's Cadbury Creme Eggs sold in the US weigh 34g (it says so right on the foil wrapper) and that a 4 pack weighs 136g (I don't think I have to cite a math textbook for that nugget of numerical wizardry). Therefore, I have removed the unnecessary {{fact}} tag. --Javance 06:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Given that the context of this section is "a comedian claimed it to be the case on a comedy chat show", I think it'd be good to have a reliable source. Other editors shouldn't be required to have access to American Creme Egg wrappers to verify the article. --McGeddon 09:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
In that case then, the photograph of the wrapper, included in this very article, showing the weight as 34 grams, should be sufficient. --Javance 23:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I removed the fact tag again. The fact is not in dispute. If you replace it, then please first read Wikipedia:Citing_sources and explain why the claim is doubtful and in dispute.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Javance (talk • contribs)
Sorry, I didn't see that you'd added a photo. Maybe we should rearrange the article to remove the repetition, rather than making it look as if the second half of the statement is unsourced. --McGeddon 09:10, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
You're right. I was thinking the same thing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Javance (talk • contribs) 15:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC).
Good job on the reorg. --Javance 18:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Records

I removed some obvious vandalism. Tom Stephenson, deceased campaigner for walkers' rights, supposedly holds the "chewing record" for eating a Cadbury Creme Egg at 9.13 seconds. I know this is vandalism because I can do that in about half the time :-) --Javance 06:34, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Caramilk Creme Eggs?

Does anyone else remember there being Caramilk Creme eggs. Caramilk was a caramel chocalate as appossed to Caramello with it's caramel filling. They were awesome. Do I need to find a source to prove their former existance or could they be added to the page? Madslocodemente 02:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

You'll need to find a source. --McGeddon 10:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Smallercadbury.jpg

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[edit] How to eat?

I can't imagine a palatable way of eating a Creme Egg other than by itself. Can someone please explain some ways is possible to eat them? --124.171.189.18 (talk) 11:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

With a spoon! (88.111.15.213 (talk) 20:19, 22 April 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Citation 1 out of date

The first citation is a broken link since Cadbury's acquisition by drpeppersnapple group, whatever that is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.145.54.7 (talk) 20:53, 9 May 2008 (UTC)