Talk:Cabinet of Japan

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Japan, a project to improve all Japan-related articles. If you would like to help improve this and other Japan-related articles, please join the project. All interested editors are welcome.
Start	This article has been rated as Start-Class on the assessment scale.
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale.
Japan To-do: edit purge Improve ASIMO Burakumin and Buraku Liberation League Takako Doi Chikamatsu Monzaemon Education in Japan Japanese architecture Japanese art Japanese robotics List of Emperors of Japan (transl. from ja) Emperor Yozei of Japan List of Japanese artists Namioka, Aomori Nihonjinron Sadako Ogata Ōishi Yoshio Okinawa (stub), Ryukyu Islands Politics of Japan Yagyu Shinkage-ryu Center Shiken (大学入試センター試験) More... Review First Sino-Japanese War Hinduism in Japan Inland Sea Kigo Narihira Santosen Temple Sazae-san Stroke order Heizo Takenaka Giovanni Battista Sidotti Requests See Requested articles Listed for deletion See this page, this page, and this page for lists. Grammar corrections Gaijin Takefuji Need images Every prefecture, see Subdivisions of Japan Sendai - Add demographic images More... Translate from Japanese Wikipedia Iemoto (家元) Blue Ribbon Award (Film) (ブルーリボン賞 (映画)) Gesaku (ja:戯作) More... Transliterations missing for Military ranks and insignia of the Japan Self-Defense Forces Wikify Ibaraki University Ikawa, Shizuoka Ima, Ai ni Yukimasu Japanese sculpture Mori Goro Sangaria (soft drink) Shaken Takefuji Vote: Watch this list — Edit this list

The Tom,

If this article is going to be moved please contact a user with administrative powers to do it because if you copy and paste it destroys the edit history. But first could you explain your reasons for the move? Is "Cabinet of Japan" a more official term?

Iota 13:35, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese Cabinet → Cabinet of Japan

Better wikipediawide consistency both in terms of "Cabinet of xxx" name structure for all Westminster-model democracies (ie Cabinet of the United Kingdom, Cabinet of Australia, Cabinet of Canada) and "xxx of Japan" name structure for all articles about Japanese political institutions (ie Diet of Japan, Constitution of Japan, Prime Minister of Japan). Presently impeded by a double-edit. -- The Tom 00:57, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• For sake of aesthetics and consistency, Support. I do have my problems with United States Cabinet but I won't get into that issue. —ExplorerCDT 02:01, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Well, there's definitely a large can of worms at play here. Dare I point interested eyes to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (government departments and ministers)? -- The Tom 04:24, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • DARE I POINT OUT THAT YOU CREATED THE ARTICLE FOUR HOURS BEFORE YOU POSTED THE COMMENT IMMEDIATELY ABOVE!?!?!?!?!?! [1]—ExplorerCDT 15:29, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Support mildly. It's worth pointing out that "Japanese Cabinet" gets 16,700 Google hits, whereas "Cabinet of Japan" gets only 640. That would explain why the article was named "Japanese Cabinet" in the first place: That's how it's most often referred to in news articles. But, neither is the cabinet's official name (in Japan it's simply "the Cabinet"), so I support for the reasons ExplorerCDT gave above.
• Support. Silly question but do any of the Google hits refer to furniture produced in Japan? Timrollpickering 11:42, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Comment: it's also worth pointing out that the use of Japanese in almost all contexts (except when talking about the "the Japanese", or just naming the language), but especially in the phrase Japanese Cabinet is an intrinsically adjectival syntax. —ExplorerCDT 15:24, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Comment: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (government departments and ministers) is worth looking at... this is part of a larger issue... —Tkinias 23:14, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • NOTE User:The Tom only created that article on December 26, 2004 [2] —ExplorerCDT 15:29, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • Uh, yes, you're right, I did. I saw this one particular page move as the tip of a bigger iceberg, and decided to start a broader discussion where people could see if we wanted a policy on these matters or not. If nobody wants one, then we won't have one, and I certainly won't appeal to one to justify any moves now or in the future. -The Tom 02:57, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Support. Although if they redirect to the same thing, and neither one of them is right according to actual Japanese governmental stuff, does it really make a hell of a difference? SECProto 03:44, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)