Talk:Cabaret

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I've heard it may also originate from Café - Bar - Restaurant...

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I'm no expert on the matter, but cabarat is one of the most popular forms of entertainment in the Netherlands. We actually have a distinct word for people who write and perform cabaret, "cabaretiers". Many cities have yearly student cabaret festivals, where up-and-coming cabaretiers or cabaret groups contest for a jury and a public's choice prize. They're called student cabaret festivals for a reason: the cabaretiers performing are supposed to be students who are simply trying out writing/performing cabaret themselves. And the public usually consists mostly of students too. These festivals are so popular that there's practically an oversaturation of new cabaretiers. The VPRO gids (VPRO magazine) has written multiple occasions sentences that are variations on "there are more cabaretiers than non-cabaretiers in this country" when there's another cabaret broadcast. DodgeK 01:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Ageed, there should definatly be a large section of cabaret in the Netherlands

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i find it rather daring to name "Austrian artist and stand-up comedian" Alf Pioer among the likes of Kurt Tucholsky, Werner Finck and Dieter Hildebrandt as "Famous Kabarettists", for the ones mentioned being "legends" in their field, having achieved an artistic legacy that only few can rival, whereas Alf Poier is merely a newcomer and rather a clownesque comedian than a "kabarettist". i could easily name 10 "kabarettists" from Germany and Austria, who would fit in this list much better, performing and having built a reputation for decades, such as the late Wolfgang Neuss (who had his prime in the 50s and 60s), the brilliant late Matthias Beltz, the late Hanns Dieter Hüsch, German Gerhard Polt, Austrian Werner Schneyder and contemporaries such as Bruno Jonas, Mathias Richling, Matthias Deutschmann, Georg Schramm and Austrian Josef Hader. i have to admit though that most of them lack an entry in en.wikipedia.org, so there is still a lot of work to be done.

Jeune 20:09, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

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I think it is important to include somewhere, that in Germany there is a very well defined difference between "Cabaret" and "Kabarett". "Cabaret" is normally light entertainment while "Kabarett" is always political and/or socio-critical humor. There's also a difference between "Kabarett" and "Comedy". Dieter Hildebrandt for example is a "Kabarettist" who is not a "Comedian" and is in no way related to "Cabaret". Sometimes an artist is active in "Kabarett" and "Comedy" and it is not alway possible to separate the two genres, but the two genres exist and normally adress different audiences. I don't know if this is typical german.

91.17.221.71 (talk) 21:44, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

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What do the rest of you guys think about this edit? The page appears to be an online magazine and I'm not convinced that this isn't really spam. But I didn't want to delete it on my own.Balloonman 16:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC)