Talk:C. E. M. Joad
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[edit] Ignored Schopenhauer
Joad's opinions on clear writing and on aesthetics were the same as Schopenhauer's. Joad, however, didn't mention Schopenhauer. Fashionably, he wrote, instead, explanations of Hegel's philosophy. If he did that in order to endear himself to the philosophic community, he failed. By the professors, Joad was considered to be a bad philosopher, possibly because of his stubborn insistence on writing very clearly and succinctly.Lestrade (talk) 17:22, 6 January 2008 (UTC)Lestrade
[edit] Sources?
This is an interesting article, but there are no sources for the information it contains. Is there a biography of Joad? Peter Ells (talk) 17:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- If there is a biography of Joad, it isn't in print at the moment. I checked Amazon and AbeBooks. Whoever wrote this article really should provide sources. It reads like original research, which would be a shame because I agree it's an interesting article and if it's original research, it can't stay up there. The revision history shows that the bulk of the article was by anonymous user 195.93.21.69, so there's no way of asking he or she what the sources were. The only thing I have been able to determine is that 195.93.21.69 probably lives in London. Lexo (talk) 11:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Inadvertent influence
Joad was credited by the writer Stephen Potter as having provided the initial inspiration for the theory of gamesmanship, which Potter made famous. The original story may apocryphal, but according to Potter the two men were playing doubles tennis against two younger students (and losing) when Joad, having hit the ball square into the back netting, asked the students after a carefully timed pause to tell him clearly whether it was in or out. Embarrassed by the implied suggestion that their sportsmanship was in question, the students' game collapsed and they lost the match. Joad would also seem to be the inspiration for the character of Sticking in Potter's later book Supermanship. Joad and Sticking share a fondness for scruffy clothes, country walks, socialism, opera and common sense, and Frank Wilson's illustration of Sticking (short stiff black hair, rotund figure) resembles the description of Joad (although without Joad's beard). The Sticking/Joad thing may be original research on my part, but the Joad-gamesmanship connection is well-documented and ought to be in here. Lexo (talk) 11:09, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
