Talk:C0 and C1 control codes

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Contents 1 does anyone here have access to ISO/IEC-6429 2 Is "String Terminator" abbreviated "SI"? 3 C1 not derived from/used in ISO/IEC 8859-n 4 CUA stuff 5 CUA stuff

[edit] does anyone here have access to ISO/IEC-6429

and if so can they check the codes in the C1 table (particularlly the 3 not identified by unicode) against it? Plugwash 02:34, 23 January 2006 (UTC) ECMA 48, the european version of this standard, is available online. --Random832 23:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Supposedly ECMA-48 is identical (and is available for free). The ISO (and ANSI) documents all cost money. Tedickey (talk) 10:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is "String Terminator" abbreviated "SI"?

Control code 0x9C is listed as:

0x9C SI ST String Terminator

However, SI is the abbreviation for:

0x0F SI Shift In

Is the SI in String Terminator supposed to be ST?

24.234.114.35 21:34, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] C1 not derived from/used in ISO/IEC 8859-n

The C1 codes were included in the ISO-8859-n series of encodings [...].

I think this is wrong if ISO-8859-n means ISO/IEC 8859. I only have access to draft versions of ISO/IEC 8859, but they explicitly say (C1 code points) use is outside the scope of ISO/IEC 8859; it is specified in other International Standards, for example ISO/IEC 6429., see here. --Abdull 08:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

there is a subtule but important difference between ISO/IEC 8859-1 and the IANA charset ISO-8859-1. One is an incomplete standard without control codes the other adds them in to make a usable standard. Plugwash 21:42, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CUA stuff

A few of the entries describe the use of a control key as a shortcut in many Windows programs and CUA X11 programs. For example: "In many programs, a keyboard input of Ctrl-Y is a "redo" command to undo the last Ctrl-Z undo command."

That's true, but the fact that Microsoft, when porting their Office software from the Mac to their own OS, used control keystrokes as a substitute for the missing command key has nothing to do with the meaning of any control character as a C0 control code.

Even if I'm completely wrong, I can't imagine how the undo/redo meanings of ^Z/^Y could be relevant but the clipboard meanings of ^X/^C/^V, the file command meanings of ^N/^O/^S, or the select-all meaning of ^A, the find-related meanings of ^F/^G/^R, etc. --75.36.140.83 07:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CUA stuff

A few of the entries describe the use of a control key as a shortcut in many Windows programs and CUA X11 programs. For example: "In many programs, a keyboard input of Ctrl-Y is a "redo" command to undo the last Ctrl-Z undo command."

That's true, but the fact that Microsoft, when porting their Office software from the Mac to their own OS, used control keystrokes as a substitute for the missing command key has nothing to do with the meaning of any control character as a C0 control code.

Even if I'm completely wrong, I can't imagine how the undo/redo meanings of ^Z/^Y could be relevant but the clipboard meanings of ^X/^C/^V, the file command meanings of ^N/^O/^S, or the select-all meaning of ^A, the find-related meanings of ^F/^G/^R, etc. --75.36.140.83 07:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)