Talk:Buyeo Languages

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I find this statement problematic: "The Fuyu languages hypothesis does not include the language of Silla, considered to be the ancestor of the modern Korean language..."

There are Korean linguists who say Buyeo language, more specifically the Goguryeo language, to be the "mother of the modern Korean language" [1]. According to this, such words as "Hae" meaning sun and "Byeoseul" meaning government post in modern Korean, came from directly the Buyeo language. Also, the Han and Buyeo language have cognates such as the word for city/town: "Büri" (Baekje), "Hol" (Goguryeo), and "Bör" (Shilla). However, this is not to say that these names were only specific to one kingdom. For example, "Hol" appears in Shilla and Baekje town names. The difference between Buyeo and Han language is more viewed as a difference like Low German to High German.

Baekje and Goguryeo people lived adjacent to Silla, so if some Silla words resemble those in Fuyu languages, they are more plausibly loanwords, or at least this possibilty should not be excluded. Furthermore the resembling words in Silla and Fuyu languages don't seem to have "law of sound (Lautgesetz)", so it's still a "hypothesis" and they are not something compared to Germanic languages which have been proven to be cognates. We should also remember that Chinese histories like Hou Han Shu and San Guo Zhi record that Baekje and Goguryeo people had similar dialects while the Silla people spoke a different language from them.

There is no doubt that there are no old Chinese records mention that the Silla people spoke a different language from Baekje or Goguryeo languages.

What is interesting with this theory is that in Japanese, whose speakers are (were) located far from Korean peninsula, there are "similar" words looking like those found in Goguryeo language (though some documents say some Japanese people also lived in ancient Korean peninsula). But again, the obstacle is that there's no sound law found between the "similar" words in both languages, and the number of those words are too few. -222.4.16.15 03:22, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I doubt there are any old records pointing out the difference of language between the royalty and the commoners in Baekje. The misinterpretation of a passage in the Zhou Shu (周書), mentioned that the king has a title that is different from the name given to him by the people, is the only basis of the hypothesis, arguing that there were two separate languages in Baekje distinguished by classes. As the same case happened during the time of Joseon kingdom, it is very probable that the people of Baekje used a special honorific form to refer to the king of Baekje.-Jagello 14:39, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

The hypothesis of language difference between the royals and the commoners in Baekje. is based on neither by old historical records nor linguistic traces to be considered as Baekje language. The misinterpretation of a single passage in the Zhou Shu is the only basis supporting the hypothesis. The Liang Shu (梁書) and the Nan Shi (南史) mention merely that the language of Baekje was similar to that of Goguryeo, while the Hou Han Shu (後漢書) and the San Kuo Chih (三國志) provide a detailed description that the people of Samhan spoke different languages distinguished by province.-Jagello 11:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Some Korean dialects spoken in south Cholla and Jeju Island, Southwestern part of Korea, preserve some typical elements of so-called Buyeo languages. This means that the people of Baekje, who lived extremely far from the center of Baekje, probably spoke the language which was similar to that of the capital area.-Jagello 14:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

This article is very poor. It doesn't reveal what Buyeo Languages was (the style, conjugation, etc) that much, but committed to the relation with Japanese language. Should correct more data and citation. -- 61.207.170.201 19:13, 27 October 2007 (UTC)