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At least some of the text in Burundi comes from this web page: http://www.state.gov/r/pa/bgn/index.cfm?docid=2821 (Burundi/Transnational issues) Is it confirmed that the original is public domain? Even if it is, maybe the source should be mentioned?

The Burundi text does come from that page and from a page of the CIA World Factbook; both of them are indeed in the public domain. My opinion of the matter is that the information was compiled on tax dollars, which means it's a work for hire for the United States public; I don't see acknowledgement of the source as especially pressing. But that is just my opinion and I have been known to have radical opinions. With I think two exceptions, all of the Countries of the world are from these two sources. --Koyaanis Qatsi

It doesn't hurt to acknowledge the source; it would give the text more credibility, and would give the reader an opportunity to find more information.

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[edit] Republic of Burundi VS. Republika y'u Burundi

Why do we not use English in the intro? Isn't having the native forms on infobox enough? --Menchi 04:57, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Not sure why; I just followed the example of other countries' leads, but I have been far from consistent on that front (as the various leads are not, for that matter). I posted a comment on the Forum for Encyclopedic Standards wrt the standardization of country leads. I invite you to comment there on the items I brought up — or raise new ones. El_C 05:38, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Landlocked

How many times is the word landlocked going to be in the opening paragraph before someone figured out another place to highlight the fact that they are landlocked.

[edit] Vandalism

What's with the recent little vandalism edits? -- Christian Edward Gruber 01:34, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Religion

http://www.anglicancommunion.org/tour/province.cfm?ID=B2 claims at least 650,000 members, which does not correspond to the figures stated in the Demographics section. Oneeye 12:44, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed WikiProject

In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on Eastern Africa at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Eastern Africa whose scope would include Burundi. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Former name

I've removed the sentences "The former name was Urundi-Ubrundi-Bruwanda. Urundi is the shortened form of "Urundi Rwanda" ("The other Rwanda"), as the Belgian colonial powers formerly referred to the territory." I can see no evidence or citation for this statement. The former name of this territory, including present-day Rwanda and Burundi, was Ruanda-Urundi, as the "History" section of this article makes clear. Kahuzi 21:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Poorly written

It seems to me that much of this whole article is poorly written and needs to be reworded. I do not mean to offend the author and am glad he worked on it, but many of the body paragraphs are grammatically incorrect or extremely simplistic, (i.e. it sounds like a second-grader wrote it). Please change the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.47.150.161 (talk) 01:57, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

I agree. The article is very poorly written.
I've edited some of the little items that stuck out to me, but after reading it, I believe it has great quality now. I suppose after a year of work it would become better. --Bookinvestor (talk) 17:34, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1972 Genocide

The information on this page about the 1972 killings differs dramatically from the "Burundi Genocide" page. I suspect that the latter is closer to the truth, with less of a polemical tone. Shouldn't the two be brought in accordance with one another? Rosecrans 02:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Rosecrans is definitely onto something here. Most sources I've seen estimate the 1972 death toll as between 200,000 and 300,000. And while it does seem likely that the majority of Burundi's genocide victims have been Hutu (if for no other reason than that the majority of the population is Hutu while Tutsis dominated Burundi's elite for most of the post-colonial era), the idea that only a "few" Tutsis have been victims of genocide is tantamount to negationism. A 1996 UN report, for example, found that the massacres of Tutsi civilians orchestrated by Hutu politicians in the aftermath of the 1993 assassination by Tutsi soldiers of President Ndadaye constituted "acts of genocide". - http://www.usip.org/library/tc/doc/reports/burundi_coi/burundi_coi1996pt5.html#II Rcameronw 13:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Well

Today they just murdered a Russian diplomat.

-G

Reaction: What do you want to mean with "today they just murdered a russian diplomat?" I assume there is an presumption behind your statement which I suspect very negative about Burundi and Burundians, and I would like you to clarify that story with the whole background if you can and the development from the investigation commission.

-Leo N.

[edit] Uganda, Burundi's neighbor !?

I decided to delete this article because of it's total inaccuracy:

"Bilateral relations with neighboring Uganda have recently become strained after the discovery of oil on Lake Kyoga, near the town of Kenyi, Uganda. The Lord's Resistance Army, the rebel group responsible for a brutal reign of terror in Uganda and Burundi's border region has begun to rearm around the borders. International observers wonder how long the tenuous cease fire will last. [citation needed]"


I'm surprised to learn that Burundi and Uganda are neighbours I didn't know that untill I saw that in this stupid article. Excuse me for calling it stupid but I think it is stupid to right about a country without consulting a map. In fact, Burundi has no frontier with Uganda whatsoever, and the Lord Resistance Army (LRA) has never been operating in Burundi. Also there's no tentions between the two countries about natural gas in Lake Kivu, because Burundi will need first to have a single inch of access to that lake which is something like 20miles away from it's nothernmost border.

- Leo N, an offended citizen

ps. Though I'ld like to thank everybody collaborating and contributing to Wiki projects, and the author of the article too for the efforts they constantly are making for providing information.

[edit] Very Poorly Written

The section "Genocide and mass killings" is very poorly written and is not referenced either.

86.140.159.159 01:27, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup required

History Section needs editing in line with the separate History of Burundi and Burundi Civil War articles, with detail moved there and a summary to remain here. The section on genocide and mass kilings needs a rewrite, breaking into paras with subheads, and to be integrated with and subheaded under other material, either History or Civil War as background/precursor material. Rexparry sydney 05:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)