Talk:Burglary
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03 MAY 2005
I would like the correct information regarding California's statutes on burglary to be in this article. Mainly the difference between first degree and second degree.
It turns out that the anonymous complainant is correct; however, it wasn't always this way, and day vs. night was formerly used in California to distinguish 1st-degree burglary from 2nd degree (in one Dragnet episode, an apprehended burglary suspect boasted that he would intentionally confine his burglaries to the daylight hours since that way it would only be second degree) — TOttenville 8 8:58 UTC May 30 2005
The word 'burglarise' or 'burglarize' is just awful. The origin of the word is already a verb - 'burgle'. Someone who carries out a burglary is a burglar. Who on earth dreamt up the word 'burglarize'? I know in America there is a tendency to make verbs out of nouns, hence 'hospitalise' or being 'tasked' with something, but there isn't even that excuse here since, as I said, there is already a verb JRJW January '06
I expect when you burglarize, the act is burglarizification. The Real Walrus 07:33, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I have heard of 'vehicular burglary', a crime in which someone breaks into and enters a motor vehicle with the intent to commit a crime other than vehiucle theft. The borderline between a motor vehicle and a dwelling is vague at times (example: a motor home).--66.231.41.57 00:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Burglar stereotype
Is there room in this article to cover depictions of burglars in the media?
- Feel free to start a new page Burglary (media). David91 03:26, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
The traditional stereotype of a burglar is a man wearing a striped sweater and a beret, carrying a bag marked "Swag" (as shown in the Swag (disambiguation) article) - from whence did this depiction originate? 217.155.20.163 23:05, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
No that's a theif. A burglar is someone in a black turtleneck(tucked in), black agile pants, and black shoes, with a black beanie. I would like an article on a Catburglar though, like Vincent Price looking guys.--PP
[edit] Who's saying this stuff??
"Habitual residential burglars tend to graduate to murderers more than other types of habitual criminals."
First of all this smacks of opinion that has no place in this article. If it were fact, then proof needs to be shown and statistics can be used to prove anything.
Fact is that most professional burglars will do everything they can to avoid violence. Unless it's a junkie looking for cash to buy a quick fix. In which case you could say "habitual junkies tend to graduate to murderers."
At any rate, I'm deleting that sentence from the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jaylectricity (talk • contribs) 23:17, 6 February 2007 (UTC).
hear hear! 81.96.191.66 21:44, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
I clarified the law in Cali and under the common law. The article is still sloppy and ambiguous. It probably need a complete rewrite. Reference is Ca Pen Code Sec 459 et Seq. Paul from Michigan 06:26, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Clarification
I clarified the law in Cali and under the common law. The article is still sloppy and ambiguous. It probably need a complete rewrite. Reference is Ca Pen Code Sec 459 et Seq. Paul from Michigan 06:26, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Deletion
I deleted one of the off-page links because it went directly to a site selling an e-book on alarm systems and had no information on burglary or crime prevention. Ryan from Vancouver 15:36, 26 June 2007 (PST)
[edit] Excessive legal focus
This article focuses excessively (that is to say, exclusively) on legal descriptions of burglary. It should also contain discussion of burglary in other contexts, including history, society, and notable techniques. —ptk✰fgs 15:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Burgle vs. burglari[sz]e
What's the real deal here? I was taught that "burglari[sz]e" is actually the verb that came first and that "burgle" is a back-formation coined by people under the mistaken assumption that it was "burglari[sz]e" that's a back-formation, but I'm not a linguist (or even a native English speaker). Would be nice if someone more knowledgeable than me could shed some light on this and amend the article. -- Schneelocke (talk) 13:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cat burglar
The phrase Cat burglar redirects here but it's not used anywhere in the text. Should the redirect be removed or should something be added that defines the term? --Squiggleslash (talk) 14:08, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Assessment
This article needs more citations/clean-up, and is of a commonly known topic to those outside of the legal profession. It is of High importance and B Class on the assessment scale. Legis Nuntius (talk) 01:37, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Common law elements
I added the common law elements of burglary to the U.S. section. --G77 (talk) 21:38, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Breaking and Entering
Someone changed the introductory language to state that Burglary is also known as Breaking and Entering. I reverted these changes to the original. Breaking and Entering are elements of the offense, not an alternative name for the offense. --G77 (talk) 01:08, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- "B & E" is a colloquial term but is actually used in some jurisdictions. I am currently doing a major rewrite of this article, as it is lacking. Have just finished section on "Aggravated Burglary" as a starter, but will add historical diffs between burglary & housebreaking under Larceny Act 1916 and amplify common law definitions. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 01:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Mitigating or exculpatory factors
Some entries to buildings are clearly permissible at law, including:
1. Break-ins by law enforcement officers to effect a lawful arrest, thwart a crime, or seize (with a warrant or in conjunction with an arrest or a response to a crime) evidence of criminal activity or contraband.
2. Break-ins by emergency responders (and perhaps others) to rescue persons or animals from perilous situations or to fight fires.
3. Entry of a dwelling or other enclosure by a locksmith with the implicit consent of a locked-out owner or dweller.
4. Entry by a landlord, creditor, or the lawful agents of either to evict a defaulting tenant or borrower.
These, although not permitted, would likely be forgiven:
1. Accidental wandering into a dwelling in error, as when intoxicated.
2. Entry of another's unoccupied or vacant building in an escape from an obvious danger (storm, fire, flood, animal attack) if the attempt to gain shelter appears necessary to save one's life or prevent severe injury.--Paul from Michigan (talk) 19:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- In all these cases, "entry as a trespasser" is not proved; therefore, there is no offence to exculpate. There is no point inserting "what X is not" into every article on WP. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 16:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cat burglar
The article "Cat burglar" redirects here, but there is no information specifically stating what a "cat burglar" is anywhere in this article. Should the redirect be removed?64.180.167.227 (talk) 06:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- It is deleted as a pointless redirect. There's probably a Wiktionary entry for it.--Rodhullandemu (Talk) 06:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
