User talk:Btljs

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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

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—Noldoaran (Talk) 23:52, Dec 11, 2003 (UTC)

I've reverted your edit of the football/soccer page. The issue you raised has been exhaustively explored/debated/researched by a large number of people on wikipedia. The phraesology in the article reflected the consensus reached after that examination. Association Football was the official name. It isn't anymore. Soccer is not a slang term. It originated as such but is now used in practice as the name for the sport in many parts of the world where football in fact refers to a native sport - indeed many native football sports are far older than football/soccer.

This page has been one of those 'war' ones for quite a while, where arguments revolved for much of the time around 'it is soccer. No it is football. No it is soccer. No it is football' for much of the time. (It was headwrecking!) So what is there is a consensus and it is also what various football/soccer organisations agreed was accurate. The version you added in was mentioned ages and ages and ages ago and was described by many as not accurate enough at best, some thought even inaccurate. (critics included people involved in the management of the sport.) I reverted the page to remove that before 'world war III' erupted on the page again.

Best of luck FearÉIREANN 17:32, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"I'm sure these arguments have been put before but I'm not about to wade through pages of debate to find them."

If you are unwilling to research the debate so far you have no right to join it. The compromise was agreed on by the community and lacking any new evidence must stand. Soccer is of course slang but it is a legitimate word well over 100 years old that has been used to describe the game (see contraction of aSOCCiation football just as rugger is rugby). Bob Palin 16:12, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Via Gellia

I think we need to merge you stub with stuff I've put in the John Gell article. Most sources agree it was Phillip Gell who made the lead-ore road, circa 1790, but there's also the possibility that the track existed as early as 1720 for stone from Hopton. Suggest we clip my stuff into your free standing article, and edit slightly. Linuxlad 09:27, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] British counties - again!

Hi Btljs,

This topic has become a hot potato all over again. There's been constant discussion and argument for weeks. We've now reached a critical point and are having a straw poll on a particular issue to see if we can make some progress that way; if this fails we may need to go to official mediation.

Would you be willing to take a look at the straw poll and consider voting? It was posted on the policy talk page on 22nd August 2005. Many thanks Chris Jefferies 23:37, 22 August 2005 (UTC)