Talk:Bruce Nelson (historian)

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[edit] Does not meet Speedy Deletion rules

This article does not meet any of the 12 criteria for speedy deletion (patent nonsense and gibberish; test pages; pure vandalism; recreation of deleted material; banned user; housekeeping; author-requested deletion; talk page with no corresponding article; office action; attack page; or blatant advertising; or blatant copyright infringement).

Furthermore, the article clearly asserts why Nelson is notable (see the second sentence of the article: "noted labor historian"). The article goes on to document why he is notable: acclaimed labor historian, inline citations to peer-reviewed articles about his work claiming they are the "best analysis" and a "landmark study" and "unique", won major writing and research prizes from academic associations, that he has been honored by the U.S. government and private institutions with research fellowships, and that he has won teaching awards from his university. I fail to see how this is not notable (or did anyone care to read the article?).

Additionally, the article doesn't even meet the Deletion policy guidelines. It contains no violation of copyright, its content belongs in an encyclopedia (e.g., the article is not a dictionary entry; does not contain original thought or research; is not written as an advertisement; does not engage in soapbox-ing by pushing a point of view; is not a mirror site; is not merely a repository of links, images, or media files; does not engage in blogging social networking or memorializing; contains nothing which might make it a directory page; is not a manual, guidebook, or textbook; does not make predictions; and is not an an indiscriminate collection of information), its content is verifiable and comes from reliable sources, and it contains no unreferenced negative content.

This article should not be deleted. - Tim1965 20:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Notability requires objective evidence. My understanding is that if you had a reference backing up the assertion that he is a notable labor historian somebody may remove the tag. Simply stating that he is a notable historian isn't sufficient though. If you provide objective evidence, my concerns would vanish. Spa toss 21:01, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

"Substantial coverage in reliable sources constitutes such objective evidence, as do published peer recognition..." If you'd read the article, you'd have seen that reliable sources were used as inline citations to his notability in the body of the article, and that he was published in peer-reviewed scholarly journals. - Tim1965 01:18, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd say the awards and fellowships listed more than prove his notability. Certainly those are "objective evidence" of his significance as an historian. Besides, if notability was your concern, why not apply a {{notability}} tag instead? -- Scartol 21:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

More than one way to skin a cat. I was just about to recommend that Scartol, who was not the original creator of the article, to remove the speedy delete tag if s/he thought the subject sufficiently notable, but somebody else beat scartol to it. Thanks for your attention. Spa toss 21:10, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

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