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I submitted this article for deletion, because Wikipedia requires a GPL copyright on all articles. The article had sufficient merit that I rewrote it on the temp page. The rewrite has more links, and more NPOV.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.171.255.181 (talk • contribs)

Dear Wikipedia I am the person who submitted the Brown Beret article on Wikipedia. I am also member of the Brown Berets and the Webmaster of the Website in question. Please leave the Wikipedia article on your site. Tomas Alejo Watsonville Brown Berets—Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.114.71.89 (talk • contribs)

Following this up. --Ngb ?!? 14:28, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Confirmation received by email. --Ngb ?!? 15:19, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Non-NPOV

Glad we got the copyright issue cleared up, but this is heinously non-NPOV: "The American reality for Chicanos/as has been oppression and segregation", "Students of color were tired of being ignored by the system and its incompetence to provide solutions", "Aztlan" ...

I added an NPOV warning.

Scrutchfield

If your saying the mention of systemic racism is non-NPOV, thats just ridiculous. That's common knowledge. You have no proof as to why it would be non-NPOV so I am removing the tag for now. If you take issue bring it up here and we can discuss it.

INO Exodus (talk) 14:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup tags and NPOV

No one has touched this since October, so please put your comments here and I will begin to take a stab at it. Joaquin Murietta 14:46, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

The article wasn't "heinously" NPOV as someone else said, but it did contain about two half paragraphs of some questionable rhetoric. I took that out and I think it's pretty close to neutral now. 68.217.53.74 14:59, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, my edits conflicted with yours, please take one more look. I removed the tags. and I may have removed your edits when I posted mine. Please feel free to change. Joaquin Murietta 15:02, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
A couple of my edits were lost, I re-introduced the ones I thought were important. The "Police Surveillance" section seemed a little questionable and I am not sure about the "LA 13" event. 68.217.53.74 16:49, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Hate Group Disputed

After reading the article, i would dispute your claims that the Brown Berets is a hate group. Without any proff your statement is myopic, biased, and baseless. I would suggest that the NPOV be removed.

After reading the article, I would dispute your claims that the Brown Berets are a hate group. Without any proof your statement is myopic, biased, and baseless. I would suggest that the NPOV be removed. If you read the current Brown Beret Website, this is an organization that has been awarded by the city of Watsonville, CA., for their involvement in youth activism, neighborhood beatification projects and ending gang violence. How many hate groups are involved such efforts.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.233.52.146 (talk • contribs)

[edit] About to edit big time

and remove the NPOV tags...Please sign your comments. I see a lot of anon comments here. Joaquin Murietta 05:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I enjoyed the previous version bt Juaquin Murieta. The person who posted the "hate group" posting has done that with every Chicano organization. It seems he is the one with hate and racism issues.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.233.52.146 (talk • contribs)

I removed this sentence -- Eleazar Risco, a Cuban national,known as chico the man a publisher of La Raza, which was part of the Barrio Communications Project. Please reconsider. I am not sure that listing various individuals is essential to this article, but if you disagree, please feel free to put it back in, perhaps a rewrite? Thanks c/a Joaquin Murietta 21:10, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I removed the deragatory comments that were placed by Izehar. These claims that are placed on top of the article are without merrit or substance. Tomas—Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.114.71.169 (talk • contribs)

For what it's worth, I am an Anglo who was allowed entrance to a Brown Beret cell meeting at the migrant camp located inside Camp Parks, a World War Two-era military airfield abandoned then used for various governmental purposes. Located in Pleasanton, California, not too far from Berkeley CA, the meeting was in 1971. Due to the "political correctness" that is apparent to me upon this Web site I will not go into details of what I witnessed or experienced there. Besides, I have no proof other than my word to verify the events. 68.13.191.153 22:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)