Talk:Brothers in Arms (album)

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1 Release date?
2 CD normalization
3 Song Durations
4 Johnny Mathis?
5 National Resonator

[edit] Release date?

If Brothers in Arms was released in 1985, it can't have been "one of the first albums to be released on CD" as the article states - the CD format had been in existence for 2-3 years by that time. AdorableRuffian 23:11, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

It was one the first albums to be released primarily for the CD market, being fully digital (DDD). "[In 1985] we were fighting to get our CDs manufactured because the entire worldwide manufacturing capacity was overwhelmed by demand for a single rock title (Dire Straits’ Brothers in Arms)." from the Rykodisc website (http://www.rykodisc.com/RykoInternal/20years/page_03.asp)

[edit] CD normalization

Is it true that the reason this album seems 'quiet' when you play it today, that the disc was normalized at 80% rather than the more typical 95+% used now-a-days? This would fit with the 'one of the first albums released on CD' idea, since if CD was a fairly new format, they'd have still been experimenting? Anybody know?

It has more to do with compression than it does normalization. The production on Brothers im Arms has great dynamic range. Most modern albums are compressed to the point of clipping.

See loudness war for more info on this problem. Cpc464 (talk) 12:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Song Durations

The durations of songs 4, 5 and 6 are different from what allmusic claims: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:osrj281c056a I don't own the album myself, so it'd be nice if someone who owns the CD could check which are correct. /Pattrick 21:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure but i've a feeling some of the songs on the CD were longer mixes compared to the vinyl release, I think the vinyl release had a shorter version of Money for Nothing (Single mix perhaps?) I just seem to remember that the vinyl would fit on 1 side of a c90 audio cassette (45 mins) --born against 12:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I just modified the track times (seconds only differences) per my 1985 CD release. I did buy it on vinyl originally but no longer own that record. --Fantailfan 13:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the vinyl album did have shorter versions of some of the songs, but I never owned it, so I don't know what the timings were. Wasted Time R 14:16, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Five of the nine songs from the album were originally shorter on vinyl. Here are those five songs and the times. "So Far Away," 3:59, also the duration on the U.S. 45. "Money for Nothing," 7:04. "Your Latest Trick," 4:46. "Why Worry," 5:22. "Ride Across the River," 5:57. These are transcribed from the U.S. Warner Bros. LP label. Some of the other times are slightly different than the CD times, but not significantly so. Cheemo 31 Oct 2006

Aren't the LP versions o "So Far Away" and "Your Latest Trick" actually the single versions, or radio edits? At least "Your Latest Trick" I've always heard on radio without the slow intro, beginning right at the sax solo, as on LP. Rsnetto74 (talk) 00:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Johnny Mathis?

"Walk of Life" "pays tribute to the American singer Johnny Mathis". Where does that come from? I'm no rock historian, but I was young when the titles mentioned by MK came out, and I know Johnny Mathis is a ballad singer who did not do "Bee-Bop-a-Lula", "What'd I Say" (Ray Charles), "I've got a woman" (RC again), and "Boney-Marony".

Could someone check on it and correct it? --Logomachon 21:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] National Resonator

On the National Reso-Phonic site, the guitar on the cover is listed as "National Style O", not Style 0. But which one is correct? They also list Style 1, 2, 3 and 4. 85.76.253.210 (talk) 17:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)