Talk:Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company

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Do we necessarily want this in Category:New York City Subway? It hasn't been around since 1923, which is why it's in Category:New York City Subway history; that seems like enough. --SPUI (talk) 23:51, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I see your point. What I'm looking for is a way to categorize things directly related to the system that bear on the system but may not be current. The problem is that "New York City Subway" has become a generic term independent of the companies and the physical rights-of-way, just as "elevated" was a generic term in the past. All the former elevated lines also tend to be in the category.

A better overall category might be "New York City rapid transit" but I suppose people would look first under "...subway" which kinds of bugs me, because "subway" doesn't adequately describe the system as a generic category.

This same dichotomy of genericness or not of the term "subway" played out in the recent celebrations: "New York City 1904-2004 Subway Centennial" as it says on the MTA website, but they really mean "IRT Subway Centennial" since there are a number of "subway" lines still running that predate the IRT by decades. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 02:11, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I think we've established that we're calling the current system the New York City Subway. Thus, anything relating to its history would be New York City Subway history, including early elevated lines, and maybe streetcar lines. --SPUI (talk) 05:40, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] List of companies owned and leased in 1914

According to 1914 Moody's Manual: Brooklyn Rapid Transit CompanyPDF:

Brooklyn Heights Railroad (wholly owned) "Owned jointly by Brooklyn Heights RR Co. and Brooklyn City & Newtown RR Co."
- Brooklyn City Railroad leased
Brooklyn, Queens County and Suburban Railroad (wholly owned)
Nassau Electric Railroad (98% owned)
Coney Island and Gravesend Railway (wholly owned) "Owned jointly by Coney Island & Gravesend Ry Co. and Coney Island & Brooklyn RR Co."
South Brooklyn Railway (wholly owned)
- Prospect Park and Coney Island Railroad leased
New York Consolidated Railroad (96% owned)
Transit Development Company (wholly owned)
American Railway Traffic Company (98% owned)

It also says that it acquired 88% of the Coney Island and Brooklyn Railroad through the CI&G after December 26, 1913. --NE2 18:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)