Talk:Broadway (New York City)

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 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benjiboi (talk • contribs) 03:18, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] article move?

Wetman: How about thoroughfare here instead of avenue. It's a tricky wording, I think you'll agree, since Broadway (at least below 59th), technically isn't an avenue, although it's definitely more an avenue than a street. I thought maybe a more general word worked better here. -- Decumanus 21:53, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)


[edit] theatre article

I have created a separate page for Broadway theatre that focuses solely on the professional group of Broadway theatres. I did leave everything about theatre along Broadway on this page because it is short and concise. Others may prefer that it be removed and all that information be relegated to the Broadway theatre page. In making this move, I have been working to change all the links on the hundreds of pages linking to Broadway, but referencing specifically Broadway theatre (e.g., premiered on Broadway, Broadway debute, Broadway premiere, etc.) The few instances of Broadway that use Broadway to refer to the street in New York or to point to a location in New York (not directly associated with theatre) will be left linking to this page. Assistance changing links is greatly appreciated. I will continue to come back and move a dozen or so at a time as time permits.

Please note the with the new page, I have opted for the spelling Broadway theatre with and "re" because the League of American Theatres and the American Theatre Wing (two groups that work directly with Broadway theatre) spell theatre with an "re." Please see http://webcdi.com/theater/theatre.php, http://www.americantheatrewing.org/, or http://www.broadway.org/ to see why this spelling was chose.

DJKS 18:20, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article should be moved

All other manhattan streets now say Street Name (Manhattan) -- and Broadway should be no different. See Category:Streets_in_Manhattan. Also note that there are indeed streets named Broadway in Queens and Brooklyn. Any objections? If not, I'll move it myself. -Quasipalm 14:41, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it was a good idea to move the article, nor do I think enough time was allowed for a discussion of the subject. There's being bold, and then there's not waiting an hour after posting this question. Broadway continues north into the Bronx over the Broadway Bridge, which far better justifies the "New York City" qualifier. The other Broadways can still have articles that use Queens or Brroklyn as qualifiers without disturbing this article. Any other thought on the subject before the move is done? Alansohn 15:02, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Alansohn: the reason it was Broadway (New York City) instead of Broadway (Manhattan) is because Broadway's not just in Manhattan. Actually, does it remain "Broadway" by name after leaving the Bronx? In that case, it should probably be Broadway (New York). AJD 15:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
There is a broadway in the bronx, manhattan, queens, brooklyn, and staten island -- I don't think (New York City) is clear enough. I also think that there's no reason Broadway is the only article in Category:Streets in Manhattan that isn't qualified by borough. Am I just being dense here? -Quasipalm 02:21, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I've been on the Broadways in all five boroughs, and I think that the one in Manhattan is what most people, including new Yorkers, associate as the Broadway. I also question the lack of discusison before moving an article that is referenced so extensively elsewhere in Wikipedia. Alansohn 03:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
So should we move 42nd Street (Manhattan), Bleecker Street (Manhattan), Houston Street (Manhattan), Park Avenue (Manhattan), and over a dozen other street articles to the (New York City) name space too? Just because the Broadway is much more prominent doesn't mean that the following qualifier shouldn't be precise and accurate. I do apologize for not allowing more discussion before moving the article -- i thought it would non-controversial and I was being bold. However, don't freak out, because we can always move it back if there is consensus for (New York City). -Quasipalm 14:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Fifth Avenue redirects the reader to Fifth Avenue (Manhattan). Thus all references to the Fifth Avenue need to be rendered [[Fifth Avenue (Manhattan)|Fifth Avenue]]. Now just pause a moment and think: is the Wikipedia reader being served by extending such foolishness, to carry out some vague sense of the importance of consistency? The Wikipedia reader entering "Broadway" will be looking for-- what? --
42nd Street (Manhattan), Bleecker Street (Manhattan), Houston Street (Manhattan), are all poor examples of your point, as they all exist entirely within the Borough of Manhattan. Park Avenue (Manhattan) would be an excellent candidate to be renamed as Park Avenue (New York City), as it continues into the Bronx with the same name as a major thoroughfare (though the existing article ignores the Bronx portion of the road with a reference to the as-of-now non-existent article Park Avenue (Bronx)). An excellent example of an existing article is Atlantic Avenue (New York City), which covers a road that extends between Brooklyn and Queens, even though there is a (relatively minor) street by that same name in Staten Island. While the other Broadways are not as minor as the other Atlantic Avenue, the Broadway that runs through Manhattan and the Bronx is rather more notable than its namesakes in the other boroughs. While I will acknowledge that it's not clear cut, there is an excellent case to be made for Broadway (New York City). We should probably reconsider the name in an organized fashion and implement the result after a consensus is generated. Alansohn 15:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Apologies to anyone tracking changes in this article. I added info about the name Broadway being used on US 9 in the towns and cities in Westchester as far north as State Route 117 in Mount Pleasant, then saw that the info was already there in the article, so I removed my addition. Next time I'll be sure to read the whole article instead of skimming. Misterdoe 09:30, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it should be called Broadway (New York City), since there's a major Broadway in Brooklyn. It also continues into Yonkers, so Broadway (New York City) has the same problems as Broadway (Manhattan). Would Broadway (Hudson Valley) work? --NE2 22:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

That would be really confusing. I prefer "New York City", since it is the Broadway in New York. But I don't really have an issue with "Manhattan"; I just followed what the above discussion seemed to conclude with. Larry V (talk | e-mail) 00:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] South Fifth Avene

Tesla's workshop on "south Fifth Avenue" was on a different street, south of Washington Square. It may be LaGuardia Place nowadays. --Wetman 18:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article should not be moved, but...

Could anyone add sections to the article describing the Bronx and Westchester portions of Broadway (and expand upon the northern half of Manhattan)? The article currently reads very much like the world ends at 59th St. 82.36.26.229 03:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] lighting

article used to say B'way was first electric lit avenue in US. History_of_street_lighting_in_the_United_States says it was Cleveland, 1879, but has no cite. I've added waffle words here. -- Akb4 (talk) 03:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)