Talk:Brigandine

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1 Coat-of-plates
2 Picture rights?
3 Brigandine
4 Conflicting Statements about Cost

[edit] Coat-of-plates

is this the same kind of armour that some people call a coat-of-plates? I have heard this term used in reinatcment groups and on there webpages. I was wondering it they were they same. If so it should be noted here.

Could be... might have to Google 'Coat-of-plates' to see if it and brigandine are the same thing. Mytwocents 19:25, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

A coat of plates is similar, and an anticedent of the brigandine. But it has far fewer plates and is articulated differently. Sethwoodworth 10:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture rights?

That looks like a White Rose Armoury Brig, do we have rights to use that picture? Where did it come from?

The picture comes from a students personal page at Columbia University http://www.columbia.edu/~ns189/armour/armoury_page.htm He describes how he made the brigadine himself. I changed the rights tag to PD-US

Why is it in the public domain? Did he specifically say that it's in the public domain? If not, then it is copyrighted. --BRIAN0918 00:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brigandine

Did the name come from the word brigand, which is another word for a bandit and outlaw? AllStarZ 17:28, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, the original brigands were spearmen and both the name for a bandit and a type of armour derive from this. I will try to find a reference. Gaius Cornelius 17:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I have it. See here Gaius Cornelius 16:56, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Conflicting Statements about Cost

The page on mail ("chain mail") says that mail was more expensive than plate.

This page says that plate was more expensive than mail.

69.95.253.248 18:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I would have to imagine that full plate would have been more expensive, as it is extremely difficult to adjust the fit of plate armor to the individual when compared to chain maille (and ill fitting armor can be almost as bad as not having armor at all, since it will slow down even the strongest individuals). Plate armor also requires a great deal of skill and/or specialized equipment to make; chain maille simply requires a vast amount of time and enough metal rings (which are not difficult to make). While chain maille is very time consuming to make, it requires a great deal less steel than full plate and is considerably easier for the average person to repair (since it doesn't require a forge). I don't have any references to back up my own experiences, so my opinion is almost certainly moot. --Dragon of the Rust (talk) 05:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)