Talk:Breech birth

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[edit] Turning the Baby to Avoid Breech Birth

Many of these methods look highly doubtful to me. No doubt some babies turn without intervention. So where is the evidence that these methods help turn the baby? --Henrygb 23:09, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

At least two will often work: maternal positioning and external cephalic version. Swimming might work, as it is pretty much the same as maternal positioning. The others... yeah, there are some real wackos in this world. AlbertCahalan 23:54, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
There is very little evidence that other than ECV and maternal positioning have any impact on breech presentation. Certainly homeopathy has no effect (as the substance is only water). And as for moxibustion! I'm inclined to remove these other supposed methods. --Maustrauser 10:09, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
But how does Swimming allow the baby to change positions before birth? It isn't explained in the article, and I suppose it'd add to the completeness to have that in there... Kareeser|Talk! 01:13, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Swimming assists as it is simply gentle exercise that may help physically turn the baby. Mirasmus 02:20, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I intend to remove the homeopathy and moxibustion links as a way of turning a breech baby owing to there being no scientific evidence that these work. Before I do so I would appreciate reading any comments. Mirasmus 02:59, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
There has been at least one study published in a peer-reviewed medical journal (JAMA) that suggests moxibustion may be effective at turning breech babies. Refer to Moxibustion for Correction of Breech Presentation A Randomized Controlled Trial. Francesco Cardini, MD ; Huang Weixin, MD. JAMA. 1998;280:1580-1584
Absolutely. Look up the Cochrane Database, easily accessible. Only ECV after 36 weeks is effective, although I confess I will occasionally turn one at 35 1/2 weeks.

[edit] evenness and pc

so i see this article chooses to use him/her a lot. normally, the english rule is him first, but i think in this case her should go first because that is the default gender of a baby. you can't accidentally be male, only accidentally not be male do to hormonal complications...seems like a silly thing to do, but maybe someone would agree with me before i do it?

The Rocket Master was born this way. RocketMaster 12:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

An intgresting point. However we are using English, and so the English conventions would be preferable. I good observation and certainly one that you should consider doing. JustAnMD 04:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


I think the recent editing is too open ended on the issue of whether maternal postioning works. I do not think there would be any harm in quoting directly from the actual citation.

[edit] Clarification please

I have deleted this sentence which is unanatomical and unclear. If the author really wants it back, it should be rendered anatomical. Note: 'down' might be either inferior (as opposed to superior) or posterior (as opposed to anterior). The proposed mechanism seems to have been copied from a lay text book, and does not appear to be the statement of a experienced individual.

JustAnMD 02:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

The use of the diphthong in 'foetus' has been replaced with 'fetus' in English medical literature, even in England.

[edit] Familial

Since 1942 there has been a hypothesis that parents may transfer risk of breech delivery to offspring. doi:10.1136/bmj.39505.436539.BE establishes that the odds ratio for breech presentation is 2.2 if a parent (either mother or father) was a breech. JFW | T@lk 08:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC)