Talk:Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act

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Contents 1 Stats needed 2 Opponents argument 3 Background check 4 Wording 5 A minor case of non-NPOV?

[edit] Stats needed

Need some stats on the acutal impact of the bill. Here are some sources: [1] [2] [3] [4]

The numbers range from 69,000 to "hundreds of thousands" of denied purchases in the first year the bill was in effect. Each of which involves falsification of information on the 4473 (the federal form required to purchase a firearm). Each of these rejections (minus the false positive rejections, on which no statistics are gathered) comes with what ammounts to a signed confession that the convicted felon or other prohibited person was attempting to purchase a handgun. The number of convictions? In 1998 there was one. Assuming the NRA's guess that 75% of the denials were the result of false positives, and assuming anyone who is rejected doesn't try to acquire a gun through other means (after all, the bill's supporters assume that in the statistics they quote), that means tens to hundreds of thousands of people denied their Second Amendment rights, all for putting 1 person in jail... scot 19:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opponents argument

I removed the line about opponents arguing that fed. has no authority to regulate intrastate commerce. This was not used as an argument by opponents to change any part of the act. The act was written to comply with that part of the U.S. Constitution from the start. There was no argument about the bill covering private sales because the bill could never be written to do that in the first place.L0b0t 19:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Background check

Sorry Yaf, I believe I may have phrased it poorly. What I meant was that if you go into Bob's gun store and buy a firearm, you fill out your paperwork and have your NICS check. The next time you go into that particular gun store to purchase a firearm you fill out your paperwork and get your firearm without the NICS check because the store has an established relationship with you as a valid purchaser. Cheers. L0b0t 03:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Nope. They still have to run a new set of paperwork through the call-in number each and every time; this means they also charge the $5 call-in fee (or whatever the fee is in the state in which the buyer lives) each and every time the same person buys a firearm. A misdemeanor violence charge (not even a conviction) is enough to prevent a potential buyer from remaining eligible; the store would have no way of knowing a buyer had thrown a cereal bowl at a spouse that morning, say, which means they had become newly-ineligible per the Lautenberg Amendment. For that matter, neither does the call-in NICS know about the cereal bowl either, yet, but running the paperwork anew establishes the illegality of the purchase for a subsequent prosecution. Yaf 12:24, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wording

"The Act initially required purchasers to wait up to five days for a background check to occur before purchasing a handgun from a federal firearms license." I don't know a whole lot about this topic, but that just doesn't sound right. Shouldn't it be "licensed dealer" (FFL Type 1) or something? Skillet5 22:26, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A minor case of non-NPOV?

Under the section Sarah Brady and the Brady Law, second paragraph:

In 2000 Sarah Brady purchased a .30-06 Springfield rifle in Delaware for her son. Second amendment rights groups claimed that this action was a straw purchase, intended to avoid the NICS.

To me, the phrase "second amendment rights groups" is not NPOV, but I'm hesitant to remove it. I'd like to hear other people's thoughts on this. Äþelwulf Talk to me. 02:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)