Talk:Bonjour (software)

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[edit] "Formerly" Rendezvous?

I can't find a single official Apple reference to "Bonjour", so this page should probably go back to being title "Apple Rendezvous" until sometime official happens. Wikipedia shouldn't be in the business of treating rumours as fact. -- Kaszeta 20:21, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bonjour/. Looks like they're rolling it out with Tiger. Personally I hate the name. It just doesn't sound right. mpiff 16:12, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I can't find any mention of Rendezvous on the Apple website.

All references to Rendezvous have likely been changed in Bonjour. Rendezvous was the old name, but it was a trademark violation and has since been changed. – Mipadi 21:22, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Any programs use this?

Is it a worthy edit to mention any other commercial or freeware programs that use this protocol? I know Trillian IM recently implimented it.

On the Mac, (among others) istumbler, Transmit and Adium support it

[edit] Bonjour for Windows

Apple's Bonjour for Windows and the open source Bonjour are two different things. The open source code provides what amounts to an example of how to build Bonjour services which can be included in services. The Bonjour for Windows code actually provides services and is not open source. --Steven Fisher 18:09:16, 2005-08-11 (UTC)

[edit] Bonjour with iTunes 5/Quicktime 7 install

I just installed iTunes 5 and my security software noted a service called Bonjour being enabled, so I assume the installer installs Bonjour. This should possibly be mentioned.

[edit] Concurrent Programming?

This may simply be my ignorance showing, but what, precisely, does Bonjour have to do with Concurrent Programming? I understand that it advertises services using multicast, and that services are concurrent running processes, but this seems to be a tenuous link at best. If there is no good reason to have the see also link, I believe it should be deleted. - JustinWick 17:23, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think there's any obvious link. Get rid of it. PeteVerdon 23:02, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Apple Bonjour Logo.png

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[edit] Spyware

A quick look around the web shows up many forums discussing how to remove this program. Since it comes packaged with some programs and cannot be uninstalled should this be considered spyware or a virus ? Obviously its a helpful tool, however how does one differentiate the two ? Please, intelligent responses only. Dont make me bring up Sonys recent CD rom installed spyware for an example...--202.81.18.30 04:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

It's not really spyware, because it doesn't spy on users; and it's not really a virus, because it isn't self-replicating. In most cases, it aids in the functionality required by some programs, so it's not really doing anything bad. Programs should declare that Bonjour is being installed, but that of course is up to the individual programs that use it to do so. – Mipadi 03:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. It is spyware. Specifically, Bonjour broadcasts hardware/system information. It's a program that piggybacks itself on other legitimate software without user authorization. In Windows, it also embeds itself into several svchost containers, the printer spool service, and internet aware applications like web browsers. Our law firm has been interested in user experiences with this software, in the interest of consumer protection. If you have had problems removing this software you should call (800) 952-5210. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.55.3 (talk) 06:43, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

They are interested but only supply a phone number if you have problems uninstalling it? I am running an application that uses it for licensing and validation on the LAN. For some reason it is also trying to reach out across the country to various IP addresses in addition to the local posts that the legit program is using. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.184.241.144 (talk) 00:59, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

This is my very first of the "contribution" of any kind to Wikipedia so here goes (hope I'll be successful in posting this message when I finish typing what I want to say): And hope I got this request in the right spot: Can authors when you write articles on SOFTware please--if you could--also have a section on how to configure that software for FIREWALLS (I use ZoneAlarm FREE Edition, if you want to know) ??? SO ANYONE knows how I should CONFIGURE Bonjour in each and every of the 4 areas (ACCESS & SERVER; INTERNET & trusted) that need to be set in ZoneAlarm ????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.156.44.41 (talk) 18:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unclear sentences

I was reading this article and noticed this sentence in the "Criticism" part:

"The service runs at Windows 'mDNSResponder.exe runs at start-up consuming around 0.8MB of system RAM at all times."

I think this sentence is very unclear. I personally am pretty much new to the ways I should write infotext here so if anyone could rephrase that sentence, Thanks.

--AtomicTroop (talk) 08:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Security impact of Bonjour

Shall we drop these sentences?

Thus, the only security impact of Bonjour is that advertised services are no longer protected by security through obscurity on the local network. If the services are protected through a means other than obscurity, they will remain protected.

Security through obscurity is a poor practice. Selecting a specific poor practice and pointing out that it will not be seen in Bonjour does not clarify the security impact of Bonjour. Psource (talk) 03:55, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Free software?

A program cannot be both "under a limited license" and free software. Assuming good faith, I must assume that someone did not bother to read what free software is, and thought it just meant cost-free. Anyways, I'm changing/removing the link.

— trlkly 17:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)