Talk:Boiling frog
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[edit] couple more sources which I made or may not add to the article
~AFA ʢűčķ¿Ю 13:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Veracity
Somebody removed it earlier, but I think it's important to mention that the debunkers cited experiments (it's not clear to me if there are multiple refs to one experiment or multiple experiments) in which the frogs were heated much more quickly than the original experimenters did. Until somebody replicates the original experiment and finds a different result, it's not really debunked.Rsheridan6 04:00, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
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"a live frog can actually be boiled without a movement if the water is heated slowly enough; in one experiment the temperature was raised at a rate of 0.002º C. per second, and the frog was found dead at the end of 2½ hours without having moved."
2½ hours = 9000 seconds 0.002°C/s * 9000s = 18°C
Is that really correct? Only 18°C Difference? So, if they started at 25°, the frog would already die at 43°C? I don't think the numbers are correct here. --Kloth 07:09, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- That does seem odd, although without knowing more about frogs I wouldn't swear that it's obviously insane. There's an article, cited by the book from which I quoted that in the first place, that may explain it better [3], but I'm not paying $18 to find out. If anybody has access to this article, they might be able to clear this up. Rsheridan6 13:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- Here's an article about a frog that dies at 85° F: [4]. I don't think it's implausible that a 18° C difference could kill. Rsheridan6 13:56, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
A search for "frog" on Snopes[5] leads one to comments of Dr Victor Hutchison[6], a zoologist at the University of Oklahoma, who assures one that the "boiled frog" claims are just an urban legend and contrary to fact. A Yahoo search on "victor hutchison" frog finds many more references to his work. But one would still like to see an actual published writeup of an actual experiment. In about fifteen minutes of poking here and there I found no reference to such an experiment. Jm546 (talk) 21:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
