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Sources are not sited properly...Thelorien 18:25, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Why would there be any need for sources in an entry that is so small? I can't believe so many edits have been made to a page that contains almost nothing! Couldn't any of those editors add some actual content? Meowy 03:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

If you examine closely, most of the edits are reverts of anon users deleting material. VartanM 23:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

My actual content, you know real info about Bitlis as opposed to ethnic proaganda was totally undone by someone without any comment. Actually, there was no need for a comment!Murat (talk) 03:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I suppose I will have to persist and defend this little patch of wiki from determined vandalism. My factual updates, links, pictures and other valuable contributions are constantly undone without any discussion or explanation. Some people here think they own this town and this page. Before making changes and edits, first discuss, explain and get some consensus. That is how it is done.--Murat (talk) 20:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Making large and controversial edits without prior discussion is exactly how you started this edit-war. Also, removing uncited and/or obviously POV information does not count as WP:Vandalism, regardless of whether or not you believe it is of value. Also, keep in mind the 3RR. The Myotis (talk) 17:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

There is no "Jevdet Bey Paşa", his real and proper name is "Governor Cevdet Paşa".--Murat (talk) 01:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

One does not pick and choose references to bolster one's POV. Out of hundreds of references, I have chosen ones that are easiest to verify. Not one, but all were removed without any reason. Stop harassing references, make an argument, express what facts are specifically disputed. No amount of vandalism here can change or re-frame historical facts. Given how you and your partisans have turned these pages into ethnic and nationalistic propaganda depositories, full of hate and distortions, maybe it is too much to expect a little respect for neutral facts. I will keep trying.--Murat (talk) 18:07, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

In spite of all good faith efforts to inject a little reality in these pages, wanton removal or any reference that does not meet a certain POV continues. This is the page to discuss it before things removed or erased. That is the wiki policy.--Murat (talk) 21:27, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Your lies are just going to get reversed. Don't you have anything better to do with your time? Meowy 21:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

What lies?--Murat (talk) 21:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

There was major massacre in Bitlis committed against Muslim population by the Armenian irregulars and the Russians when they "briefly" held the town during WWI. The US observers, in their report to the US Congress (a reference repeatedly removed from here) noted that in their tour of the region right after the war, they encountered ZERO Muslims in Bitlis. The reference and paragraph stays.--Murat (talk) 19:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Discuss before editing out major sections and deleting references and sources. What is dubious about a reference? Does that mean not to one's liking? More than half the article has grown into coverage of the WWI events. That belongs to a different article. Maybe that new article can be titled "self-defensive invasion of Bitlis and self-defensive massacre of the Turks there by Armenians"! Just a suggestion!--Murat (talk) 20:41, 8 June 2008 (UTC)