Talk:Bitches Ain't Shit

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[edit] A cover??

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge BF fan, but why is it that this page is all about his version? "Bitches Ain't Shit" isn't a cover of a Dr. Dre song, it is a Dr. Dre song that happened to be covered by Ben Folds. This pages perspective seems totally ass backwards to me.
amRadioHed 04:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I created it 'cause it was on the "Articles to be created" thing. I should actually move the page... Daisy-berkowitz 16:20, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Ben's the one who made it big... take for example the case of Matchbox. 66.97.122.97 16:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't matter, it was originally Dr. Dre's song, so there should be a mention of Dr. Dre's version too. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 16:52, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm not campaigning for the removal of the mentions of Dre in the article. I get that it was originally his song, we need to leave information about it in there. It seems to me, however, that Ben did more with the song than did Dre, so a little more focus on that is proper. There are about twice as many Google hits for the song with Folds' name than with Dre, it was a single as opposed to a track (apparently) tacked on after the "Outro", and I know Ben includes it in many of his live shows (see http://wokeupwaytoolate.com/filedump/ and http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Ben+Folds+bitches+ain%27t+shit&search=Search for some examples, sorry for not making the links look nice).
Also, it's worth mentioning that 66.97.122.97 is me. Hezekiah957 05:46, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Great, add your information with the song being used in live performances, WITH those sources, and I will leave it the way it is. However, don't make it a whole paragraph, it is not that notable of a song, just one or two sentences, such as "Ben Folds uses the song many times in his live shows.<ref>source</ref>". --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 13:22, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You tube link removal

2 links removed - 1 one instance - no clear indication uploader had rights to footage concerned in repsect of other link - no indication as to rights to the song concerned (footage itself is amateur/student) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)