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[edit] Other uses of 'big beat'
on the Polish Wikipedia,pl:Big beat, is being described as a 1960's rock-n-roll style, is the 90's term borrowed/reborn?
about the Electronica/Big beat dichotomy, I thought (and hear) Electronica being used much more as an umbrella term for alot of style of electronic music, usually either in the media, or by people who are not into a specific scene or genre, whereas bigbeat/dnb/etc resolution is much more common among fans and sceners. --80.178.219.17615:52, January 28, 2005
- AFAIK Big Beat was a Polish term for Rock'n'Roll somewhere in the 50s and 60s. Dunno really who coined the name, but I agree that it tends to be confusing. --Karkinos 21:24, March 14, 2005
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- In Czech Big Beat was used to designate rock music in the 6Os and 70s, typical Big Beat (or bigbeat, bigbít as it was written) would be the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Animals and their czech imitators. --Georgius 19:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Big beat (also Big Beat, or sometimes chemical breaks) is a term devised in the mid 1990s...
Uhm. Try 30s jazz.Yeago 20:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I've created a disambiguation page for alternate meanings... Martin Hinks 19:06, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Just as a further note... isn't that Big band?
[edit] Big beat vs Chemical
There's a reasonable difference between Big Beat and Chemical Breaks. Just compare The Prodigy - Smack My Bitch Up or Overseer - Supermoves to say, Crystal Method or Überzone. // Gargaj 13:16, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC)
- Crystal Method isn't considered Big Beat? I was going to add them to this page. How would you characterize the difference between Big Beat and Chemical Breaks? Alas, I'm not in a position to go out and buy a bunch of CD's to try to characterize the difference myself. :) --Jay (Histrion) 15:00, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- i was always under the impression that chemical breaks tracks had more of an acid house feel to them when compared to big beat tracks?--MilkMiruku 23:49, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
ishkur guide think that chemical and big beat didn't are the same thing.
Those are different subgenres of breakbeat. Chemical breaks (Hybrid, Crystal Method) are more artificial (thus the name) and a lot less funky, and big beat is way closer to Funky breaks and it usually features the most popular vocal samples used in Hip-Hop. P.S. When is somebody going to make a Funky Breaks page? - bombac.
- Yeah, that's a fair assessment, but you also have to consider that almost every sub-genre in electronic music has direct cross over with another, so while Big Beat and Chemical may not be the same, they are close enough to be encompassed by either term properly. Another one that tends to have cross over with both of them is NuBreaks aka NuSkool. Although, my personal choice of describing the difference between Big Beat and Chemical is that Big Beat is more loop and sample oriented whereas Chemical is much more free synth based, but both of them rely heavily on the use of both. I find that most NuBreaks artists tend achieve a Big Beat sound using less loops and samples and more synth, so yet again just another variation. Xao Garrent (talk) 15:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] More other uses
I found this article while trying to clarify what "big beat" means after discovering that jazz-rock band the Sumerian Kyngs use the term to describe themselves (http://www.myspace.com/sumeriankyngs). They certainly have nothing in common with Fatboy Slim, apart from living in Brighton. I think what is described here is just one of many meanings.
BTW, "bigbít" (Czech spelling for "big beat") is still a commonly-used term in the Czech Republic, essentially meaning rock'n'roll.
BTW again, what did the Doors mean by "Texas Radio & The Big Beat"? HairyDan 00:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Big Beat dead??
"The Big Beat movement died by 2001, due to the genre's nature of playing out samples, and dumbing down the electronica wave of the late 1990s." Ah yes? To me, Kid 606´s "The Illness" sounds quite alive and really Big Beat. Isn´t Breakcore just a new name for sampler-only music? Just a thought. (195.46.251.253 20:07, 28 September 2007 (UTC))
- Wait, what? Breakcore is just really hard jungle, and like anything with core in it's name, awfully repetitive. If you want to hear the difference between breakcore and big beat, look both up on shoutcast and sample them using the internet radiostations. Xao Garrent (talk) 16:23, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Big Beat/Chemical NOT Dead
The Chemical Brothers recently put out a new album, which is very good in my opinion, and almost every major artist in the genre (including the Crystal Method with their legendary album Legion of Boom in 2004 and Fatboy Slim with Palookaville, also 2004) has put out at least one new album since the alleged 2001 date of death. I agree with pretty much everything the page says about Big Beat/Chemical except it being dead and the "Jungle's Retarded Cousin" remark. First off Big Beat and Jungle are actually fairly different, and Big Beat/Chemical is slower but much, much more stylized/less generic. I'm not going to edit out the claims of it's death and correct the "Jungle's retarded cousin" remark, but I know I'm not the only one here that can attest to both being incorrect, it sounds like those accusations were made by someone picky who doesn't like some of the newer sounds emerging in the genre. Xao Garrent (talk) 16:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I remember The Chemical Brothers themselves declaring Big Beat dead when their single "Hey Boy, Hey Girl" was released (1999) and that Trance was the next thing.Tchoutoye (talk) 10:31, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The Doors and The Cramps irrelevant
"In 1971 The Doors released a song called 'The Wasp (Texas radio and the big beat)', where a reference is made to Big Beat music coming out of the Virginia swamplands. The psychobilly band 'The Cramps' also released an album titled 'Big Beat from Badsville'."
The mention of The Doors and The Cramps is highly irrelevant to this article. The words "Big" and "Beat" are very general and so is their combination. I'm going to delete the references.Tchoutoye (talk) 10:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
