Talk:Bevo (mascot)
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R.I.P Bevo XIII. Long may Bevo XIV reign - and some more national championships, please! Johntex\talk 17:03, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Varsity"
If my information is true . . . It would be a great help if you could make a subheading labeled "Varsity" and tell about the original mascot who was named "Varsity". Which is the the origin of of "Saw Varsity's Horns Off". The current info is listed as a footnote at the song and I would much prefer to make it a wikilink, but I have nothing to link to. I know nothing about Texas football so I don't want to add third hand info.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 02:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think the mascot was ever known as "Varsity". It was the team itself that held the "Varsity" nick-name prior to being called the "Longhorns". I'll see about adding a link into the text. Johntex\talk 18:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Origin of name
This portion of the article does not present a NPOV. Whether the explanations presently given are true or not cannot be conclusively verified. Therefore, other possible explanations for which sources can be cited should be presented fairly. The 13-0 explanation should be mentioned as being questionable, but should not be dismissed entirely.
- http://www.utexas.edu/tours/nowthen/20/17.html
- http://www.texasescapes.com/MikeCoxTexasTales/174-UT-Football-Team-Mascot-Longhorn-Bevo.htm
- http://www.chiomega.com/chapters/content/ourTown.asp?chapterID=45
- http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6149922?FSO1&ATT=HCP
- Raetzsch 19:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
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- The 13-0 story is completely discredited. We have a reputable source that says that steer was served up at a banquet and that the hide was presented to the Aggies with the 13-0 brand still in place, unaltered. Also, we have a reference that the term was used at least one year prior to that. Between the various other explanations, we present the evidence as it is documented by the sources cited. Johntex\talk 18:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Numerous reputable sources also claim that the 13-0 story is true. Thus, the controversy. Only a citation of the actual Alcalde article from 1916 or proof of the unaltered brand could definitively disprove the 13-0 story. Until such a source is found, we must assume that either claim could be true. After all, right now there are merely two opposing claims, neither of which should gain monopoly. - Raetzsch 19:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Please see what you think of the new wording. I changed it to say that the best known sroty has been called into question. I also in-lined the references so we can more easily see which reference supports what statement. Johntex\talk 20:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think this proves two things: (1) that Aggies and Longhorns can work together and (2) that you are a fine editor to put aside personal views on a sentimental subject. I hope comments about Reveille or Aggie Bonfire would also be as well-received. Now, I think your new wording is very fair. The only sentence that still jumps out at me is "However, Texas students did not, as it is rumored, retaliate by..." That still suggests that the story is definitely untrue. Perhaps something like "Texas students are rumored to have retaliated by..." Your thoughts? Nice with the references also. - Raetzsch 02:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Raetzsch, sorry for the long delay. I haven't been to this article in a while. Thank you very much for your comments, you are very kind. I have made a few contributions to the Aggies articles and I am very pleased to say that I have usually been very well treated over there also. I take your point about the sentence in question. I will make a further change. Thanks for your help. Johntex\talk 03:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- I made this change to take an even more neutral stance about the naming issue. Please let me know what you think. Johntex\talk 03:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- I also made mention of the naming controversy in the lead. Johntex\talk 03:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'm happy with it. I think it's well-worded and certainly well-referenced. Thanks for your help on this matter! Happy new year. - Raetzsch 18:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- i'm not happy with it. Why hasn't this link been included??? http://www.utexas.edu/tours/nowthen/20/17.html Further and almost conclusive evidence that the 13-0 origin is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.32.87.87 (talk) 10:43, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- To the contrary, that photo provides more evidence that the a&m naming story is myth. The photo, which is found on this article, still shows 13-0. If you go to the trouble to change 13-0 into Bevo, why not document your handiwork? Why document what you were trying to cover up?
- The most conclusive evidence is the fact that the name was already in use prior to that 13-0 loss. Johntex\talk 11:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- I think this proves two things: (1) that Aggies and Longhorns can work together and (2) that you are a fine editor to put aside personal views on a sentimental subject. I hope comments about Reveille or Aggie Bonfire would also be as well-received. Now, I think your new wording is very fair. The only sentence that still jumps out at me is "However, Texas students did not, as it is rumored, retaliate by..." That still suggests that the story is definitely untrue. Perhaps something like "Texas students are rumored to have retaliated by..." Your thoughts? Nice with the references also. - Raetzsch 02:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- Please see what you think of the new wording. I changed it to say that the best known sroty has been called into question. I also in-lined the references so we can more easily see which reference supports what statement. Johntex\talk 20:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Numerous reputable sources also claim that the 13-0 story is true. Thus, the controversy. Only a citation of the actual Alcalde article from 1916 or proof of the unaltered brand could definitively disprove the 13-0 story. Until such a source is found, we must assume that either claim could be true. After all, right now there are merely two opposing claims, neither of which should gain monopoly. - Raetzsch 19:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- The 13-0 story is completely discredited. We have a reputable source that says that steer was served up at a banquet and that the hide was presented to the Aggies with the 13-0 brand still in place, unaltered. Also, we have a reference that the term was used at least one year prior to that. Between the various other explanations, we present the evidence as it is documented by the sources cited. Johntex\talk 18:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Silver Spurs merger
An editor suggested that Silver Spurs be merged here, but did not create a section for discussion on the idea. As a starting point, I am mildly against a merger. The Silver Spurs article is stubby and un-wikified, but I think it could be cleaned up instead of merged. I look forward to other opinions on the matter. Johntex\talk 03:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
