Talk:Betty Friedan

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I, but it'll be hard to keep it NPOV... I'm also a little dismayed that it doesn't mention her work with labor unions. That tends to get overlooked because she's so often portrayed as the epitome of bourgeoise feminism, so I think it's important for it to be concluded. I'll do some research on it and see what I can find. Leyanese 15:46, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Whoever made the claim Friedan plagiarized from The Second Sex doesn't know what he or she is talking about. Neither book is remotely similar. I am deleting the "plagiarism" reference because it's nonsense and reeks of somebody putting his or her point of view in the article.

WHICH "critics" make such a charge, praytell?

[edit] cleanup

not encyclopedic, format problems. Jim62sch 22:36, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations for Carl

While the accusations of wife-beating were in the news, Carl Friedan wrote numerous letters to editors, giving his side of the story. He also set up a website, www.carlfriedan.com, which contains all the letters that were published (with full citation details), as well as lots more information. The web site is now gone, but snippets of it can be found at various other places on the web, e.g. http://www.fathersforlife.org/feminism/truth_a_la_friedan.htm. The original web site is in the archive, e.g. [1]

Articles can be selected from there for citation. (This is what I just did with the NY Post quotation.) --Daphne A 06:04, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

The description of the The Feminine Mystique has been vadalized. I would change it back to what it was before, but I am new to Wikipedia and unfamiliar with the interface.


[edit] Neutrality

The second paragraph of the gay/lesbian controversy does not seem to be in proper encyclopedia format; it is told dramatically, like a story, and it may be just me but it feels slightly biased. Can somebody who is good at identifying proper style and neutrality look at it? --Queenrani 02:46, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


This is a ridiculous article and laced very liberally with POV.

[edit] Neutrality

As mentioned in other posts, this article absolutely reeks with POV. Someone more experienced in that should check it out. Sephirothrr 19:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Breasts" Quote

I could not find any source for this quote on "breast usage" on Google, save for pierretristam.com. Should we delete it? SuperGerbil 23:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

The pierretristam.com source ([2]) says that it is from a speech called "Crisis in Women's Identity" in San Francisco in 1964. It looks like this speech is in a collection of Friedan's works called It Changed My Life, so it should be relatively easy to see whether or not the quoted line was in the speech. In my opinion, this makes it verifiable and it should be left in the article unless someone looks at the speech and finds it missing. Mike Dillon 03:58, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

The page says:

- [Betty Friedan] is said to have [citation needed] coined the anti-lesbian phrase "Lavender Menace"

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"Betty Friedan, in 1970, raised the specter of a "lavender menace" in order to purge lesbians from the women's movement. [note 33: It was largely reported that Friedan had remarked that lesbian feminism were a "lavender menace" that would hurt the women's movement. The remark led to the eruption of the lesbian feminist movement, beginning with the twenty-member "Lavender Menace" that disrupted the Second Congress to Unite Women in 1970 (Schneir, 160).]" (Jacqueline Rhodes: Radical Feminism Writing, and Critical Agency - From Manifesto to Modem (2005) p. 34)

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Article need to be put in chrono order. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 17:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)