Talk:Bernard Kerik

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More information about this article... The following comments have been left for this page: 'After the attacks, ''Kerik took control of an apartment donated for the recovery efforts at Ground Zero, using it as a rent-free "love nest" to meet with his girl friends, including Judith Regan, the publisher of The Lost Son.[2]' Isn't this article supposed to be an unbiased publication of facts? The wording in this article needs significant changes. (edit)

Of course, it must be kept in mind that "being assigned to the most substantial narcotic investigations(sic) in the history of the department" is not quite the same as "heading up" the investigation. What was Kerik's role? Was he a lead detective on the case or just a "gopher" for the more experienced detectives?

Please attribute POV to the source which asserts or advocates it. If you personally doubt a source, you can't just say so in the body of the article; that's what this talk page is for. But if you can find somebody else who is a quotable authority and who doubts the other source, you are eagerly invited to add this info into the article. --user:Ed Poor (talk) 21:01, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)

The Police Commissioner of the City of New York was Kerik's title and a page that should be created. Changing it to simple "police commission" when that apparently doesn't warrant a page either seems kind of pointless. --[[User:TheGrza|TheGrza]] 01:49, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)

I changed it to [[Police commission]]er of the [[City of New York]]. Given that police commission has no article and that police commission of new york city has no article, what are the odds that someone is actually going to create Police Commissioner of the City of New York in the near future? At least the link I changed it to had some prospect of a useful article being written for it someday soon. Or, are you planning to write that specific article? Wolfman 02:30, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Actually, the main reason I changed it was because I started researching the police commissioner of the City of New York. It's slow going, which is probably why there isn't an article, but I think a position of such importance and visibility deserves an article soon. --[[User:TheGrza|TheGrza]] 08:15, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] does he have kids?

Three questions: How many kids does he have and how old? Is he still married?

He's been married since '98 to a woman named Hala, a Syrian immigrant. At the time of his nomination to run DHS, they had two children, who could have been born anytime between 1999 and 2003, I suppose. She's the third Mrs. Kerik--apparently, he expunged all evidence of marriage no. 1 from the public record and even his best friends didn't know about it until evidence emerged when the wheels fell off the nomination wagon. [1]Andrewjnyc 04:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

What is the evidence that he is an Autodidact or a Commander of the Order of the British Empire, as implied by the Categories assigned? Bejnar 21:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Dunno about the former, but Giuliani recieved an honorary knighthood and Kerik and Thomas Von Essen (NYC fire commissioner at the time of 9/11) were named honorary OBEs on Queen Elizabeth's New Years Honours list in 2002. [2] Andrewjnyc 04:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jail renaming/unnaming

The article should probably include info about how the Manhattan jail was renamed in his honor by Giuliani, then unceremoniously de-named in the middle of the night on July 1 or 2 2006 following his guilty plea. I would expect the best place to add this would be in the sentence following the description of said plea. I can do the honors if no-one else steps up in the next day or so.Andrewjnyc 04:33, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dollar amounts

I think that the dollar amounts of the loan and gift are important to state, so that readers will neither exaggerate, nor belittle, the size of the infractions. Bejnar 03:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military experience

I am curious to find out what kind of training an MP (who only serves 3 years) can offer to Special Forces personnel that would be worthy of noting? I seriously doubt an MP with so little time in service would would be instructing SOF personnel on tactics. What was it that he trained these highly skilled operators how to do? Please show me the light...

See the section below about his tenure at the Interior Ministry. Apparently Kerik was little more than a strutting blowhard. 152.31.193.132 14:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC)Black Max, 9-21-06

In Guiliani's book "Leadership", he states that Kerik provided martial arts instruction to Special Forces. Elsewhere in the Wikipedia article it does note Kerik martial arts skill levels. --Purpleslog 02:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New information about Kerik's term as head of Iraq's Interior Ministry

I thought this article [3] had some interesting facts that should be included into this article. 12.40.175.229 18:22, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the entire section on his "service" with the Iraqi Interior Ministry needs to be revamped. According to a new book by Washington Post reporter Rajiv Chandrasekaran, "Imperial Life in the Emerald City," Kerik was little more than a showboat who spent his brief time in Iraq bloviating about his celebrity as a 9/11 hero, taking part in some raids without actually contributing anything or risking his own neck -- "Kerik never left the car. He stayed inside the armored car," Burke told the Daily News. "Some questioned his courage." -- and actually doing nothing positive. He left the country after little more than three months to "decompress" by jetsetting in Europe.

The book is excerpted in this article: [4]

While this needs to be written in an unbiased and non-partisan manner, it certainly needs to be covered. 152.31.193.132 14:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)Black Max, 9-21-06