User talk:Benbucksch

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[edit] Nice, France founding

Regarding your change of Nice, France being founded "in the 5th century BC" to "around 350BC", I admittedly can't read French at http://www.nice.fr/mairie_nice_558.html

I see "En l’an 300 avant Jésus-Christ", but I'm not sure where 350BC comes in. I see "wohl um 350 v. Chr." on the German Wikipedia entry, but am unsure of its fact's source. I won't give my credit card # for Britannica's free trial. On Encarta, I found "Probably founded by the Greeks as Nicaea around the 5th century bc".

It would help if you'd translate the relevant part of the French government page, and link or quote the Britannica bit. There might be two theories as to when Nicaea was founded, but I haven't that fact from a reliable source yet, except this apparent discrepancy between two reliable sources. I was just going to add a formatted ref for the 350BC fact. Gotyear 18:30, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


Gotyear, Encyclopedia Britannica states "around 350 BC", German Wikipedia states "4th century, probably around 350 BC", and the official homepage of Nice states 300 BC.

I have the Britannica (full, DVD, 2005). It says, in the beginning of the second paragraph: "Founded by the Phocaeans of Marseille (a colony of Greek mariners) around 350 BC, the city was probably named in honour of a victory (nike in Greek) over a neighbouring colony."

I'd believe the Encyclopedia Britannica more than Microsoft Encarta :). None of them cite their sources of reasons, as far as I can see. I am not a historian, so I don't know what are more credible sources.

FWIW, I wrote "probably around 350 BC".

Hope this is enough. Ben Bucksch 22:48, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Works for me. I have no opinion on Encarta v. Britannica :), but I'd say at least 2 reliable sources trumps one, with no reasoning as to the apparent discrepancy. I might format the refs you found later, but I'll leave the fact unless I find any concrete evidence to the contrary. Thanks, Ben. Gotyear 12:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC)