Talk:Bavarian Geographer

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I am planning to insert here the original Latin document with the English translation and some comments. -- cc

Not a good idea, really. We have Wikisource for such purposes. --Ghirla -трёп- 10:28, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

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(division into 2 parts, numbers and formatting according to the publisher: H. Łowmiański)
(Part 1)

Descriptio civitatum et regionum ad septentrionalem plagam Danubii.
(1) Isti sunt qui propinquiores resident finibus Danaorum, quos vocant Nortabtrezi, ubi regio, in qua sunt civitates LIII per duces suos partite.
(2) Uuilci, in qua civitates XCV et regiones IIII.
(3) Linaa est populus, qui habet civitates VII.
(4-6) Prope illis resident, quos vocant Bethenici et Smeldingon et Morizani, qui habent civitates XI.
(7) Iuxta illos sunt, qui vocantur Hehfeldi, qui habent civitates VIII.
(8) Iuxta illos est regio, que vocatur Surbi, in qua regione plures sunt, que habent civitates L.
(9) Iuxta illos sunt quos vocant Talaminzi, qui habent civitates XIII.
(10) Beheimare, in qua sunt civitates XV.
(11) Marharii habent civitates XL.
(12) Uulgarii regio est inmensa et populus multus habens civitates V, eo quod mutitudo magna ex eis sit et non sit eis opus civitates habere.
(13) Est populus quem vocant Merehanos, ipsi habent civitates XXX.
Iste sunt regiones, que terminant in finibus nostris.

(Part 2)

Isti sunt, qui iuxta istorum fines resident.
(14) Osterabtrezi, in qua civitates plus quam C sunt.
(15) Miloxi, in qua civitates LXVII.
(16) Phesnuzi habent civitates LXX.
(17) Thadesi plus quam CC urbes habent.
(18) Glopeani, in qua civitates CCCC aut eo amplius.
(19) Zuireani habent civitates CCCXXV.
(20) Busani habent civitates CCXXXI.
(21) Sittici regio inmensa populis et urbibus munitissimis.
(22) Stadici, in qua civitates DXVI populousque infinitus.
(23) Sebbirozi habent civitates XC.
(24) Unlizi populus multus civitates CCCCXVIII.
(25) Neriuani habent civitates LXXVIII.
(26) Attorozi habent civitates CXLVIII, populus ferocissimus.
(27) Eptaradici habent civitates CCLXIII.
(28) Uuilerozi habent civitates CLXXX.
(29) Zabrozi habent civitates CCXII.
(30) Znetalici habent civitates LXXIIII.
(31) Aturezani habent civitates CIIII.
(32) Chozirozi habent civitates CCL.
(33) Lendizi habent civitates XCVIII.
(34) Thafnezi habent civitates CCLVII.
(35) Zeriuani, quod tantum est regnum, ut ex eo cuncte genetes Sclauorum exorte sint et originem, sicut affirmant, ducant.
(36) Prissani civitates LXX.
(37) Uelunzani civitates LXX.
(38) Bruzi plus est undique quam de Enisa ad Rhenum
(39) Uuizunbeire
(40) Caziri civitates C.
(41) Ruzzi.
(42) Forsderen.
(43) Liudi.
(44) Fresiti.
(45) Serauici.
(46) Lucolane.
(47) Ungare.
(48) Uuislane.
(49) Sleenzane civitates XV.
(50) Lunsizi civitates XXX.
(51) Dadosesani civitates XX.
(52) Milzane civitates XXX.
(53) Besunzane civitates II.
(54) Uerizane civitates X.
(55) Fraganeo civitates XL.
(56) Lupiglaa civitates XXX.
(57) Opolini civitates XX.
(58) Golensizi civitates V.

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Image:Hermann Geogr Bavar1.jpg is related to this article and is currently the only image related to the subject. There is no reason we should not use it here, and all the reasons to use it. Please stop removing it without a proper explanation at talk.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  05:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

"The map is original research and should be removed. Histline.narod.ru, hosted on a free-for-all website, is not a valid source of information for Wikipedia. Assigning locations to all those tribes (many of them being hapax legomena) is, at best, wild-eyed speculation." [Copied from my old notice on Talk:West Slavs .] --Ghirla-трёп- 17:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
The article (the one on the page image is from) looks referenced, and seems to fullfill criteria for WP:RS and WP:ATT. Please note that WP:NOR is related to research done by Wikipedians, research done by others and published even if only on websites can be included in the article. Feel free to adjust the caption to reflect the dispute, perhaps "speculated locations" or such.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  18:11, 2 July 2007 (UTC)